i want to order these tonight off of ebay...does anyone have them or know if they are decent? i would like to get the zzp headers but cant afford them so any help would be great..thanks

They are pacesetter knockoffs, all the purchasers have been happy for the price, as far as I've heard. The one complaint is that you need to seal them up with copper sealant because the clamps don't do a perfect job.

yes they will "git-r-done" they are even cheaper pacesetters like Zafrin said.

i run the Pacesetters and i like them for the price, they perform very well and you just need to tweak the places where the pipes connect and your good to go

well, there ordered..haha thanks for the heads up guys..ill let ya know how they work out and definately post pics.

Take lots of pictures while they are shiny. They won't be for long.

haha i know im going to try and get the 2000º ceramic hi-temp paint and give that a whirl...any idea where to get it?

and another thing, what is the copper sealant zalfrin speaks of? never heard of it.

Copper RTV. It's at Autozone.

ok...thanks

ok, got the headers...one clamp...anyone know where to get the band clamps? lol and then i need to get the cat welded in and paint them and presto, install time!

Napa, Carquest, etc.

Get the clamps that are a bit wider. I'm not sure what they are called, but they are like sleeves. Hopefully someone can help me out here.

ok ill check around monday...an the copper rtv looks like its only good to 700º...is that enough? thought headers get to like 1800º?

lol no.

Copper RTV is fine.

1800* is hot enough to melt iron and steel iirc. Your block would be molten at that temp.

The wide clamps are called band clamps. Come in all the popular sizes all the way up to 5 or 6 inch iirc. They run around 10 or 15 bucks a piece.

A lot of people buying these have found the crossover is not correct and must be cut and rewelded! also since these headers are stainless do'nt bother with paint it will just end up flaking off ,if you want them coated send them to jet -hot their coating will last and cut down engine bay heat,one other heads up for these headers they will not fit a 97 gt with a 4t60e trans.