Just to make you all feel a little better

Posted by: HercMan(Rob)

Just to make you all feel a little better - 09/24/08 12:36 PM

As I've purused the car mags and internet articles and such and on here hearing well Car X has more power etc etc. I thought I'd put into perspective how far ahead of the curve our mighty 97-03 GPs were when they were introduced when it comes down to power.

Remember the GTP was rated at 240hp and a torque of 290 and the GT rated for 200hp and sorry I forget the torque.

These cars were all for sale in 97

Nissan Maxima 190/205
BMW 328I 138/133
Chrysler concorde 214/221
Infiniti I30 190/205
Mustang V6 150/215 V8 215/285
Taurus 145/170
Porche Boxster 201/181
MB C360 268/280
MB c280 194/199
Acura Integra type R 195/130
Acura CL 200/195
Camaro Z28 285/325

Granted I didn't go through all the makes and all the models but as you can see from this sampling of mostly four door sedans and couple of coupes for the "wow" factor the GT/GTP and the early SE's with the 3800 stood their ground mighty nicely.

So take pride in the fact that these cars when they were released were at/near the top when compared to it's competition.
Posted by: ordonez1307

Re: Just to make you all feel a little better - 09/24/08 12:44 PM

so.... 11 years ago... our cars were relatively fast wink
Posted by: HercMan(Rob)

Re: Just to make you all feel a little better - 09/24/08 12:51 PM

compared to what was available at the time yes.
Posted by: 00grandprixgt

Re: Just to make you all feel a little better - 09/24/08 12:57 PM

ok so its still slow to my standards haha lol but yea that does put into perpective
Posted by: Dre da GP man

Re: Just to make you all feel a little better - 09/24/08 11:02 PM

I like what you did herc.
Posted by: Chico

Re: Just to make you all feel a little better - 09/25/08 12:54 PM

Too bad they did'nt put the GP GPX prototype into production 300hp& 335tq 0-60 in 5.6 sec.I know one of our members has a big GPX on the side of his stock GT :rolleyes: please !these numbers are even better than the famed Buick GNX .Chico(pops)
Posted by: HercMan(Rob)

Re: Just to make you all feel a little better - 09/25/08 01:38 PM

Ohh I didn't even want to look at hp numbers from the 80s. The 84 Vette didn't even come close to the HP of our GPs wink Iirc the 91 ZR1 is the first C-4 vette to have beeter hp then our cars.
Posted by: Acefighter

Re: Just to make you all feel a little better - 09/25/08 01:53 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by HercMan:
Remember the GTP was rated at 240hp and a torque of 290
290? You sure? Mine's only rated 280.

Regardless, that's impressive. Thanks, Herc.
Posted by: BoostenGTP

Re: Just to make you all feel a little better - 09/25/08 02:06 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by Chico:
Too bad they did'nt put the GP GPX prototype into production 300hp& 335tq 0-60 in 5.6 sec.I know one of our members has a big GPX on the side of his stock GT :rolleyes: please !these numbers are even better than the famed Buick GNX .Chico(pops)
are you talking about andrew with the white gt and GXP badges?
Posted by: Chico

Re: Just to make you all feel a little better - 09/25/08 04:11 PM

No I'm talking about Dthreap with the huge GPX decals on the purple GT.
Posted by: ordonez1307

Re: Just to make you all feel a little better - 09/25/08 04:11 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by BoostenGTP02:
Quote:
Originally posted by Chico:
[b] Too bad they did'nt put the GP GPX prototype into production 300hp& 335tq 0-60 in 5.6 sec.I know one of our members has a big GPX on the side of his stock GT :rolleyes: please !these numbers are even better than the famed Buick GNX .Chico(pops)
are you talking about andrew with the white gt and GXP badges? [/b]
does he really have GXP badges on it?
Posted by: BoostenGTP

Re: Just to make you all feel a little better - 09/25/08 05:22 PM

yeah he does.
Posted by: Chico

Re: Just to make you all feel a little better - 09/25/08 06:41 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by HercMan:
Ohh I didn't even want to look at hp numbers from the 80s. The 84 Vette didn't even come close to the HP of our GPs wink Iirc the 91 ZR1 is the first C-4 vette to have beeter hp then our cars.
Here are the facts on Corvette hp#'s 1986 came out with the TPI 5.7 rated at 245hp and 340tq and in 1990 the ZR1 was an option the LT5 was rated at 375hp and jumped to 415hp in 93,and while the early 80's hp #'s were down they still had pretty good tq#'s ,and a little FYI the LT5 was built by Mercury Marine in Stillwater OK..Chico(pops)
Posted by: HercMan(Rob)

Re: Just to make you all feel a little better - 09/26/08 06:11 AM

My memory is goin lol. Now I'll have to go back and look at my book. Maybe the ZR1 was the first C4 to have over 300.
Posted by: Zalfrin

Re: Just to make you all feel a little better - 09/26/08 08:43 AM

HP/weight would be more useful in determining actual power.
Posted by: HercMan(Rob)

Re: Just to make you all feel a little better - 09/26/08 02:51 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by Zalfrin:
HP/weight would be more useful in determining actual power.
True but people hear the name car X and automatically assume certain things. Just showing that the GP was ahead of the curve in power.

Ok pulled out my source book for Chevy's here's some numbers on the C4 vettes. I'll add the weights in for Zal

shipping weight/net HP/net Torque

84
3088 / 205/ 290
85
3088 / 230 / 330
86
3086 / 230 / 330
87
3216 /240 / 345
88
3229 / 240 or 245 (depending on rear end choice)/ 345
89
same as 88
90
3223 base model same as 89 ZR1= 3465/375/370
91 No changes
92
3223 300/330 ZR1 no changes
93
3333/300/340 ZR1 3503/405/385
94
3317 same LT1 ZR1 no changes
95
3203 same LT1 ZR1 3512 same LT5
96
3298 same LT1 330/340 (LT4)
97
3229 345/350(LS1)
Posted by: Acefighter

Re: Just to make you all feel a little better - 09/26/08 02:59 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by Zalfrin:
HP/weight would be more useful in determining actual power.
Only to real car guys. Most people just care about the HP, not even the torque.
Posted by: HercMan(Rob)

Re: Just to make you all feel a little better - 09/26/08 03:04 PM

It just dawned on me.

Look what the current LS series of engines produces compared to the "exotic" LT5.

Could you imagine a DOHC S/C'd LS engine would do?