#127519 - 01/16/09 02:12 PM
Does ZZPs PCM is worht the buy?
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I know i asked which 1 should i get but after reading forums im really not sure if its worth the risk.Im deff getting the DP but pcm i dunno.What do you guys suggest do you know anybidy that had problems with it.My goals for now are to make my GT quicker before i turbo it.But turbo is not dropping in till summer.
PLus which DP should i get 2.5" or 3"
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#127520 - 01/16/09 02:55 PM
Re: Does ZZPs PCM is worht the buy?
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wasn't this discussed already or am i seeing things :S
3" for turbo right? Or maybe waiting to mod up fully when you turbo, just do it all in one go would seem more efficient.
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#127521 - 01/16/09 02:56 PM
Re: Does ZZPs PCM is worht the buy?
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... Why waste your money on a DP that will not work with the turbo kit. And why buy a pcm when you will need a new tune for the turbo kit? Why waste money on mods you can't use with your future plans?
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#127522 - 01/16/09 03:18 PM
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Turbo's have their own downpipes. No aftermarket downpipe you get will work with a turbo kit.
And as Chris mentioned, you'll need a retune at that time, so their is more money thrown away.
If you do intend to go turbo, get some 1.9 rockers and a powerlog.
Both the rockers and powerlog will give you gains while being NA and bigger gains when you go turbo.
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#127523 - 01/16/09 03:27 PM
Re: Does ZZPs PCM is worht the buy?
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Originally posted by r.s.hutchinson:
Turbo's have their own downpipes. No aftermarket downpipe you get will work with a turbo kit.
And as Chris mentioned, you'll need a retune at that time, so their is more money thrown away.
If you do intend to go turbo, get some 1.9 rockers and a powerlog.
Both the rockers and powerlog will give you gains while being NA and bigger gains when you go turbo. As Hutch says, deff go with a powerlog. but instead of rockers you could go Cam which would give you even bigger gains. However rockers are much easier to install. If you are deff going turbo get a stattama cam at w.e lift you like. Ill go with the st3 for myself personally. However you need heavier valve springs and if you get the st3 you will need a double roller, modded retainers, and 130 valve springs.
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#127524 - 01/16/09 03:49 PM
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Originally posted by ChrisGT: Originally posted by r.s.hutchinson:
[b] Turbo's have their own downpipes. No aftermarket downpipe you get will work with a turbo kit.
And as Chris mentioned, you'll need a retune at that time, so their is more money thrown away.
If you do intend to go turbo, get some 1.9 rockers and a powerlog.
Both the rockers and powerlog will give you gains while being NA and bigger gains when you go turbo. I think st3 cam's require headwork as well... You don't NEED a double roller, it's safer but not a must. I doubt he's going to install the cam himself, so unless he has $1000+ for labor, I think the rockers would be a better choice.
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#127525 - 01/16/09 03:53 PM
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Originally posted by r.s.hutchinson: Originally posted by ChrisGT: [b] Originally posted by r.s.hutchinson:
[b] Turbo's have their own downpipes. No aftermarket downpipe you get will work with a turbo kit.
And as Chris mentioned, you'll need a retune at that time, so their is more money thrown away.
If you do intend to go turbo, get some 1.9 rockers and a powerlog.
Both the rockers and powerlog will give you gains while being NA and bigger gains when you go turbo. As Hutch says, deff go with a powerlog. but instead of rockers you could go Cam which would give you even bigger gains. However rockers are much easier to install. If you are deff going turbo get a stattama cam at w.e lift you like. Ill go with the st3 for myself personally. However you need heavier valve springs and if you get the st3 you will need a double roller, modded retainers, and 130 valve springs. [/b]
You don't NEED a double roller, it's safer but not a must.
I doubt he's going to install the cam himself, so unless he has $1000+ for labor, I think the rockers would be a better choice. [/b]Nope the ST3 clear fine you just need modded retainers. Jeff and two others are running it on stock heads. With 130# springs you most defiantly want to run double roller. And ya I hear ya on the installs. So ya if hes paying someone 1.9 rockers are the better choice!
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#127526 - 01/16/09 04:04 PM
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look into a larger TB and if you can get a metal intake manifold off of the 3800 camaro's. FWI, shift kit, deff recomend some sort of scan tool... like an aeroforce gauge ect.
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#127527 - 01/16/09 04:06 PM
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Originally posted by ChrisGT:
Nope the ST3 clear fine you just need modded retainers. Jeff and two others are running it on stock heads.
With 130# springs you most defiantly want to run double roller.
And ya I hear ya on the installs. So ya if hes paying someone 1.9 rockers are the better choice! Ah, I must be thinking of intense cams then. Their stage 3 requires headwork. But back on topic, like everyone says from day 1, Plan Ahead! Plan what you want out of the car and get mods that will work with your end goal, you will save alot of money that way.
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