IMO i think the grand ma is a girlie car, really not on top of the food chain if you get what i mean.

i know there are some guys here that have owned a grand ma then saw the light then got the real deal, or there wives or girlfriends own one, hell even my M-I-L owned one until she totalled it and i admit that im the one that talk her into buying it instead of japanese (her favorite).with no probs i will add.
now she owns a 04 olds alero with the 2.2 ecotech motor. she loves it (thank god) i hate car shopping


but i will admit that there is one grand ma that i would own,i saw it in a magazine back in 79 or 78 it was a prototype built by pmd. it was a rwd with a pmd 301cid-4bbl with 4-sp manual. dam good looking full instumentation with the pmd snowflake wheels and a spoiler with ram- air. but it never made production.

alex, you need to tell this guy that our grand prix has over 40 yrs of heritage and comes with a 6cyl standard not optional and just a few years ago use to come with a v-8. ive never seen a grand ma come standard with v-6 power much less a production v-8.

if nothing else alex you could always tell him that his wife or girlfriend will always look good in his grand ma. just too make those grand ma drivers jealous.