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#129769 - 11/11/07 11:39 AM Re: Post photos of your CAI and FWI please.
tazfootball2 Offline
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The longer I stair at it, the less and less I see where the heck $250 went to!
um, i spent $220 and free shipping for mine, i shopped around and got the best deal at anythingauto.com.

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OK the K&N may be overpriced but lets break it down,first a silicone coupler instead of a rubber sewer coupler next a polymer intake tube that resists heat soak instead of a pcv sewer pipe ,a huge K&N oval filter then a heat shield that looks like it belongs in the car,now if money is tight build your own and do'nt look back as I do'nt think there is any huge difference in intakes as long as the filter is big enough and the intake tube does'nt have to sharp of bends.Chico(pops)
Thanks, chico! Plus "engineers" have done the studies and made the best product for our cars in a CAI. I agree the power gains are not really noticable, but again it's just a supporting mod. Bottom line, do whatever makes you happy in the end!
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#129770 - 11/11/07 04:15 PM Re: Post photos of your CAI and FWI please.
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Is there a floor in the bottom of it cause it looks open to me. Plus does it seal up against the hood or is it open as well?
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#129771 - 11/11/07 05:55 PM Re: Post photos of your CAI and FWI please.
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My mileage has increased almost exactly 1.7 mpg since I put the CAI on.

It's fairly easy to verify that, because I drive the same route to & from work every day, at almost exactly the same speeds, and hardly ever take the GP out on errands.

So the money I spent on my home-made has already been recovered, although I had the K&N filter from a previous mod that was never used. It's found a good home in the GP, that's for sure.

As for an increase in power, my butt-dyno tells me there's a little increase in low end torque, and a nice little extra push above about 3800rpm. But that's all subjective, and increase in mileage is real and worth if for that, if nothing else.
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#129772 - 11/11/07 06:13 PM Re: Post photos of your CAI and FWI please.
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#129773 - 11/11/07 08:43 PM Re: Post photos of your CAI and FWI please.
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Probably $50 in ebay parts:





Basically 4" to 3.5" silicone reducer, then a 3.5" polished aluminum tube, then a 3.5" to 3" reducing elbow, then a 3" aluminum tube to the air filter (I think). Can't get around using the 3" stuff cause of the fender restrictions. Works nicely though.
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#129774 - 11/11/07 11:50 PM Re: Post photos of your CAI and FWI please.
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thread jack, is there a problem with FWI's getting water or snow in them? could that blow up the engine if that happened?
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#129775 - 11/11/07 11:53 PM Re: Post photos of your CAI and FWI please.
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not if you have the splash guard. the way those are made, its REAL hard to get water up in there short of drivin through washouts or arroyos.
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#129776 - 11/12/07 12:11 AM Re: Post photos of your CAI and FWI please.
zuulmusic Offline
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Richard is right. After my recent fender bender, I've had my splash gaurd out for a while. One day coming home it was raining pretty good and I was going through some deep puddles on the highway... and caused terrible engine studdering and stalling a few times. Now driving in rain is OK as long as I avoid puddles. I gotta get that thing fixed....
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#129777 - 11/12/07 06:29 AM Re: Post photos of your CAI and FWI please.
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Heck I had a touchless car wash give mine problems. all that water sprayed on the front end past the headlights and onto my filter. Caused some havoc till it dried off.
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#129778 - 11/12/07 09:47 AM Re: Post photos of your CAI and FWI please.
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tazfootball2,

1. Where did you get your kit?

2. Does it come with a mount for the PCM?


Thanks!
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#129779 - 11/12/07 10:54 AM Re: Post photos of your CAI and FWI please.
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There are a bunch of other places that have it too.

1. http://www.pfyc.com/pc/PN3002/GNUNDER/K%26N+Air+Intake+Kits+-+Pontiac.html

2. Yes
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#129780 - 11/12/07 03:32 PM Re: Post photos of your CAI and FWI please.
tazfootball2 Offline
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Is there a floor in the bottom of it cause it looks open to me. Plus does it seal up against the hood or is it open as well?
Herc, if you were asking me that question(s), the answers are: Yes there is a bottom, that is where the PCM mounts to. And yes it kinda seals up to the hood. There's a rubber "bushing/seal" along the top edge of the box to meet with the hood. I mean its not perfect but it's not open.

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1. Where did you get your kit?

2. Does it come with a mount for the PCM?
MACDRIVE,

1. AnythingAuto.com is the place where I bought mine. I paid $220 + free shipping, it came in about 4 days. Compared to pfyc.com, they want $259 + shipping. <--- F*** THAT!

2. Yes, you basically disconnect the PCM from the connectors, take out the 4 screws from the PCM, line the PCM up on the 4 holes on the bracket. Screw the sucker on there and that is done!
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#129781 - 11/13/07 06:12 PM Re: Post photos of your CAI and FWI please.
Blue03GTP Offline
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I just couldn't see spending $250. on a CAI. I would think they would all work around the same right?
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#129782 - 11/13/07 06:27 PM Re: Post photos of your CAI and FWI please.
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Originally posted by Blue03GTP:
I just couldn't see spending $250. on a CAI. I would think they would all work around the same right?
as long as you dont put any 90 degree bends in it, and have a large enough diameter PVC, then yes. The performance aspect of it is the exact same. Putting a box around it will help also
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#129783 - 11/13/07 06:32 PM Re: Post photos of your CAI and FWI please.
tazfootball2 Offline
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I understand that the box is to restrict the heat from the engine to the filter/intake but doesnt it restrict actual airflow to the filter/intake? Is that why the best way to get air in easier and colder (less heat) is a FWI???
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