I park next by 04+ grand prix GXP. It is purple car V8 faster than all 3800 engine.

Anyway, I looked at rotor and brake. It look nice. I wonder will it fit for our 97-03 model? Reason why? I'm getting 18" wheels next Spring 2009. I heard that some of them need big rotor to slow the car down instead stock rotor because of big wheels. Is that true? Just want safe reason.

Thanks.

i would love to line up against a GXP. i like my odds.

use the f-body brakes.

i think it can be done ... but it would be work ... i know fbody will work good

Guess you haven't heard about the exorbenant amount of torque limiting programmed into the pcm.

I'm not 100% positive but I would imagine the brakes on the GXP are the same rotors and such found on the Impalas and such that the 12" upgrade rotors and brackets come from.


Ohh and Palsut until you have somethign under the hood that will outperform a 3800 I suggest you lay off the 3800 bashing. Besides wasn't the 3400 phase out the 3100 (not in GPs cause they're dinosaurs)long before the rest of GM phased out the 3800?

All guys bragging that 3800 engine going beat my car. Now, it is my turn to bash for GXP. I will bet my money on GXP whip 97-03 model. We need find member for GXP vs. 97-03 model for drag race to see who win

Anyway thank for tip. I just saw wheel thread from clubgp like 18" 19" and 20" wheel thread. I saw 20" wheel with stock rotor. Damn that's sooo tiny rotor with huge wheel I guess it is safe to have stock rotor with 18" wheel? If not then I take it out and save for winter beater when it is getting bad shape in future.

when you do... tell them to give me a call

Palsut you just continue to cross the line an never have your facts right,I will gladly race a GXP of your choice even for pink slips!! The 3800 is the engine of choice on our site you do'nt see me coming here and comparing my GTO LS1 to the 3800 ,if you do'nt like that you have a Grand Am motor change it or drop the subject if you can't do that maybe best you move to a site that deals with the 60deg v6.

well said pops

palsut i dont think you realize that any car can beat anything with the right amount of work into it. The 3800 engines are an extremely durable engine and with the right amount of care(like all of us give) they can outlast your TINY 3100 any given day! i know this is off topic but you really need to stop bashing or like chico said go find a different site.

geez calm down you are all overboard. It is just joke. Well, why I need to go other site for? This is grand prix. My car is grand prix. Don't tell me that my car with 3100 engine is not belong this forum? I get that some of that. :rolleyes:

If you plan on running bigger wheels & brakes, you'll also need more power to get things rolling, due to increased rotational mass. You might want to consider a power adder of some sort, just to balance things out...

I finally took pictures to see how my 18" wheel look like. Of course it need tires I think it is look nice. It is really match my paint. The rotor look not that bad. It is not tiny. What do you think?




About problem click sound during turn or slow down. I bet that is from this problem. ugh this dealership fixed that THREE TIMES! It is always back again. Now, it will be 4th times. Geez what wrong with damn dealership? :rolleyes: Whoever told me it is swar bar. Is that what you mean for green grease problem? If so then you are probably right. It is time to take it back to dealership for get fix for free since they already repair last Spring. Thank god for record paper.

Driver side....

That green grease is your cv joint boot. You'll need to get that fixed asap before your cv joint fails.

It was fine in the thread you started it in you don't need to drag it to every thread.

Don't worry, I'm not going say anything bad to 3800 engine.

Yeah, I will have talk to dealership tomorrow. I just found out today. If cv joint fail so good reason to get 3800 engine? man that's suck... I thought it is finally over. :rolleyes:

you are going to lower the car right?

I don't know. I will see how my 18" wheel and tire look like after install next year. It might low or not. I still have over 100k struts. They are very rusty and good driving but I have feeling it will going to break soon because they are very rusty bad. I heard about low it kill mpg and of course I'm afraid I might scratch my bumper from parking in curb stop

Palsut those wheels look ok but I think chrome woulda looked better or black to go with windows and some bigger wheels seem to be a must.

palsut buy the kyb struts from WBS as well as the b&g lowering springs $450 for both combined. IF it does ANYTHING to mpg it will only effect it by maybe 2mpg's. Everything looks real nice! no need to upgrade in rotor size. paint those calipers though!

GrandPrixGTAlpine: I understand but everyone have different taste. I used have paint tri-spoke that I sold it. Now, I have shiny tri-spoke but they are bitch to keep it clean. It will go to winter beater when I get 18" wheel install soon. I always love big wheel because it will allow me clean inside the wheel to get rid of nasty brake dust and black tar for easy job than take the wheel off.

01 GT: well they have 2 kyb struts. I'm not sure which one are you asking me to get them. It might be 2010 project plan if we are still around Keep rotor? Will it is safe to have 18" wheel with stock rotor? I'm doing safe reason but maybe I could try myself next year to have brake test if it is same or too long either. I don't know how to paint or remove calipers (don't want mess it up for "no brake"). I'm suck at it. I could use ricer's way for cover newspaper on rotor and use paint spray on it

Yes stock rotors are big enough for 18 inch wheels. Now if you were racing the car and such then I'd say go bigger.

I bet in the real world with no measuring devices you would never know the difference in braking. It might be a foot more in 60-0 but it's not enough to worry about.

Okay thank you. Look like I'm sticking stock rotor since I'm not doing "racing" thing. Of course stock rotors are cheapest to replace. It is my 2nd rotor. 1st rotor got rusty really bad to cause car shake. I think it was replaced like 3 years ago.

OK here's the skinny on the GXP,road an track tested them and they did well for a 300hp fwd heavy sedan(3760lbs) 5.7sec 0-60 and a 14.3@101mph 1/4mile ,certainly quicker than a n/a 3800 but barely quicker than a stock GTP ,with minor mods the 3800 wins period ,so please get your facts right before making derogotory statement.Chico(pops)

Well, I'm taking this car to dealership tomorrow morning to fix cv joint.

Anyway, about GXP. I thought V8 should be powerful and faster than V6. V8 is pretty big weight that I saw car show couple months ago. It will be sweet if it will fit on 97-03 model. I believe they stop make it just like they stop make 3800 engine.