#138554 - 07/01/07 05:49 PM
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Yeah... I'm sure if you email em they can take care of you on the XP/top swap settings
My tune was way off, but that's cause they only programmed for the top swap and not for the cam I put in. So you will want to make sure and do that
I recommend having the blower housing powdercoated. The blower gets very hot, so I'm not sure how painting will work, but in any case, powdercoating will look much better and since it's baked on it's far more durable
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#138555 - 07/01/07 06:15 PM
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If the dampener wears out is it a real PITA to change on a regular basis?
Although, because it's behinf the front cover, I'm going to assume so...
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#138556 - 07/01/07 06:58 PM
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40k miles isn't exactly regular basis. But, it requires your timing cover to be removed.
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#138557 - 07/01/07 11:13 PM
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Changing the dampener every 40k wouldn't be too bad.
Anyway, off-topic, I'm havin some computer issues. Keeps locking up for no apparent reason. Temperatures are fine, video card running around 50*C during heavy gaming.
I think I may just need a can of air and blast out the case, it's getting kinda nasty in there lol!
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#138558 - 07/01/07 11:35 PM
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Random...
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#138559 - 07/02/07 11:40 PM
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My uncle who knows quite a bit about engines will look into finding somebody to lend me a stand so I'm looking forward to that.
But he also thought it would be a good idea for me to get new pistons and/or rods if I've got the motor pulled.
That'd be $40 for the oil pan gasket + whatever new pistons and rods go for.
What do you guys think? If they are in good condition I'm just going to leave them. If they aren't looking good, what should I do?
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#138560 - 07/03/07 01:25 AM
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I wouldn't worry about it, these engines are built to last, the tranny is the weak link... mine has 151k on the bottom end and going strong. How many miles are on your motor?
Plus if you're gonna do that, it would require machine shop work on the cylinder walls (honing at the bare minimum, boring if there are gouges in the cylinder walls)
I was going to do piston rings and rod bearings when I had the motor out, but I took my heads off and the cylinder walls were PERFECT. You'll just have to see what they look like once you get the heads off.
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#138561 - 07/03/07 06:51 PM
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I was going to do the same thing, if they were good, just leave it.
I'm going onto zzp and putting my order in for my stuff.
Wish me luck!
Edit: Hey, you guys think I should drop an extra $140 and get a double roller timing set? I don't need a dampener or new timing chain so that saves me just under $40 so it'd be about a $100 upgrade. What do you guys think?
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#138562 - 07/03/07 11:08 PM
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You don't need a new dampener or chain, but now you've got timing cover clearance issues. You might or might not need a inside of the timing cover machined so it doesn't rub. Secondly, you'll have to disable the balance shaft. This means reduced engine life and increase vibration.
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#138563 - 07/04/07 01:24 AM
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i would say don't get the double roller. i would only recommend it for use with 130# springs but with 105#'s and the XP you'll be fine with a stock replacement chain
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#138564 - 07/04/07 05:24 PM
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Well after all was said and done...
About $1100 including the PCM and shiping, may be a little more because the cam tables are an extra $30.
Bought an upper coolant elbow just in case, along with that magnetic pick-up tool. I dropped an upper engine mount bolt between my radiator and AC heatsink and it was the biggest PITA EVER!!!
Also bought the pulley puller off ZZP too. Just so I could get everything possible from ZZP and have almost everything once everything arrives.
I'll just need fluids, besides S/C oil, a S/C belt, some JB weld, and I think I'll be good...
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#138565 - 07/05/07 01:54 AM
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Zoomer loves you
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#138567 - 07/05/07 12:16 PM
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Originally posted by drummerboy1307: Zoomer loves you No he doesn't, which is one of the reasons I have issues with them.
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#138568 - 07/05/07 12:30 PM
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well you sure ordered alot of stuff from them
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