I know what you are taliking about and haven't seen any of those things. But I will ask around. I was told by the onstar rep that the reason why I could not use my currrent verizon service is(get this) the car phone is ANALOG not digital. you can not buy an analog cell phone if you tried. Everything is digital now. also, the car phone doesn't always have reception is some of the areas that my verizon phone does. Plus I already pay 60.00 a month for unlimited talk time including long distance, why would I pay more to use this thing? I just think it is cruel to have such a cool cell phone that I can't use. I was told by. onstar that a few years ago you had to get your own service. That is not an option now. I wonder if there is a way that a good car audio place could hook my phone up someway to the car. I don't care about the cost. Unfortunately I live in the boonies and car audio stores are far away. Oh well.