Are you serious? :v

GM has been dying for years, far longer than he has even been on the scene.

wow, you would.

I don't blame everyone about killing Pontiac. Blame president? He didn't kill it. That's GM's choice so blame GM. It was sad to go but I'm not surprised about that. We kind knew it is coming. GM is hurting the business now. Same as other companies too.

I'm glad to be part of Pontiac history. My next car will be Ford or Chevy either in future.

I didn't blame him for GM dying, I blame him (albeit partially) for Pontiac's death. GM has made no announcements on plans to kill it off until Obama started dictating what they had to do to get more gov't money that they shouldn't be getting in the first place.

First you want to blame anyone blame GM and the rich fat cats NOT the president. It's really sad to see Pontiac go under because of a failing economy but I guess it's part of life we have to live with. All I know is there is no way I am going to part with my GP, not when its in excellent shape and has only 55,000 miles on it. For an 03 that says a whole lot. I spoil the crap out of it and I love it, its the best car I have ever owned. Also now that GM is closing the Pontiac line our cars have or will become collectors items! That being said....as someone on here said this aint no shock. This has been coming for awhile now but again you want to place the blame on anyone place it on GM not the President. GM, the way they are goin will not be in buisness long anyway and that in itself is sad because they are a good car manufacturer. That is unless by some miracle they are saved financially in the long run.


Its sad to see our beloved Pontiac get shut down but we knew it was coming. Before long Rice burners and Mustangs will rule the streets.

Well Herc is right that Obama influenced this to happen. Rice burners and mustangs will not "rule" the street it's not like Pontiac cars are gone from the face of the earth.

I have to agree. Obama's administration is micro-managing GM and Chrysler right now. They are dictating policy changes, suggesting executive staffing changes, and, to an extent, doing marketing. Obama basically did a brief commercial for Buick when he discussed the auto bailout.

I don't disagree with all of their decisions. Hell, I thought I remember a plan years ago from GM to eliminate repeatitive models and focus the smaller brands on niches. And then nothing happened. It's about time that someone forced these companies to adopt better business practices.

Unfortunately, I don't think the Obama crew has the experience in the auto industry to really get all the details right. Sure Buick, internationally, has a great reputation. But the Buick's for sale in China are a little different than the models sold here.

Either Pontiac or Buick had to go here in North America. But GM could have kept Buick in other markets and kept Pontiac here. For Obama's nerd herd, it was a simple business decision that was all about profitability. They probably all drive Hondas and Toyotas because, financially they make more sense than a fun car, like a Pontiac.

IMO, Buick has always just been a crappy Cadillac! I'll take a Pontiac over a Buick any day of the week. But in the end, I'd rather see GM continue at the cost of losing Pontiac, than see GM fail.

FYI, I live in one of the bluest and most socialist states in the country, Connecticut. And I supported McCain. I've been called every name in the book by my own family because I didn't vote for Obama. So, let me have it Obama-philes. Do your worst.

If you want to blame anyone you blame the UAW for the pensions and deals they are getting. And, blame GM for the crappy quality they put out in the 1980s.

The public perception lags in auto quality and the improvements that Japanese manufacturers made in the 1980s is what we are still seeing today in consumer perception, despite the fact that American companies have closed the gap and are now the same quality as Japanese.

And yes, I say this as a member of a family full of UAW workers (former Oldsmobile employees).

Obama had nothing to do with it...the past is finally catching up to GM.

So in 2010 there will no longer be any Pontiac Dealerships? Also will this effect us as Pontiac owners in getting parts, etc?

Do a search for Oldsmobile parts. That'll give you a clue what you can expect.

Or maybe you could blame the fact that Pontiac hasn't sold many cars at all. I don't like Obama as much as the next guy, but to say something like that is ignorant.

I went last night to a Pontiac/GM dealer last night and spoke to one of their service reps about being able to get parts and so fourth after the plug is pulled on Pontiac and he said GM will continue to manufacture parts for the Pontiac line. In fact more then one person told me this so I think the fear of not getting parts for our cars is unfounded until GM says otherwise..

I may be wrong, but I believe there are laws that require a car manufacturer to ensure parts supplies for at least 10 years after they no longer sell in the US market.

I seem to have brought bad luck to car brands that begin with 'P'. But, as a Peugeot owner (laugh it up), I never had problems getting parts because they didn't pull out until 1992. In 2002, all the Peugeot owners held their breath as they waited to see if parts would still be available. So far, Peugeot has voluntarily continued to supply parts. I would imagine they may someday have an interest in returning to the US and want to have happy past owners.

GM will probably want to keep Pontiac owners happy as well. If they pull off a miracle and GM turns it around, they might want to bring Pontiac back years/decades from now.

When I worked at a pontiac dealership , that was the deal..any production car made, its original replacement parts must be produced for 10 years.
Then it goes to the after market, witch can then be purchased by a company, the original dies and machines used to make said parts from GM, and be labeled factory reproductions.
Oh and sorry for my language in earlier posts