#187774 - 12/03/06 03:19 PM
Trans Fluid inside throttle body
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This is slightly off topic, since it applies to a 95 Skylark w/3.1 v6 one of our kids recently got. I've been helping him go through the car. It has < 40k miles on it. While changing air filter, I noticed the old filter was soaked. At first I thought it was oil, but turned out to be trans fluid. I took the short rubber intake hose off as well, and there was some amt of trans fluid in the throttle body entrance. Trans fluid level shows 1 pt low. Any thoughts on what would be causing this. Driveablity is ok, but I think I have noticed a very slight lope.
I've no clue if or how much trans fluid the engine might have already ingested. Any thoughts appreciated.
I've never run into this before.
Thanks in advance.
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#187777 - 12/03/06 10:10 PM
Re: Trans Fluid inside throttle body
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Yeah... I bet it's sucking fluid out of the tranny and into your vacuum lines. Probably has an air line in the intake hose? That would explain the trans fluid in the air filter and tb.
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#187780 - 12/04/06 10:51 PM
Re: Trans Fluid inside throttle body
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Thanks for all the replies guys. Stock paper filter in the stock air box. Vac line is just before throttle body, and I haven't had a chance to trace it down as it winds it's way behind the engine. I think you're right about the modulator...been doing some internet research and that seems to be the primary culprit. Seems straightforward enough to replace, but I haven't had the car up in the air yet to take a look.
I don't know how much trans fluid it might have sucked in, but there hasn't been any smoke, so I'm guessing not much.
Any idea on a ballpark cost for the modulator?
Thanks again for the replies.
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#187781 - 12/05/06 05:48 AM
Re: Trans Fluid inside throttle body
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The vacuum modulator is less than $20 at any autozone.Chico.
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#187783 - 12/14/06 10:23 PM
Re: Trans Fluid inside throttle body
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I was under the car recently, and it has a 4T60-E transmission (that's what's on the pan anyway). I'm guessing the '-E' transmission code is electronic and not hydraulic?
Is there a vacuum modulator on this trans ? I couldn't find anything on the side of the transmission, but there is something a little higher up that faces upward. The vacuum line from the top of the engine appears to go into it.
This doesn't look like something that would be easy to replace, especially considering the location.
Any thoughts appreciated.
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#187784 - 12/15/06 12:59 AM
Re: Trans Fluid inside throttle body
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4t60E all have vacuum modulators. They can still be electronic (solenoids and so on) yet require a modulator for function on how hard to shift.
No idea where they're located, but they shouldn't be hard to replace either.
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#187785 - 12/15/06 04:51 AM
Re: Trans Fluid inside throttle body
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Originally posted by HercMan: Chico didn't you have a tweak for those modulators to firm up the shifts? Yes you can buy an adjustable modulator I do'nt have the part # off hand but you can ask for a 95-96 GTP part, the adjustment is not plug and play though start with 2-3 turns on the screw and try ect. Chico.
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#187786 - 12/15/06 04:10 PM
Re: Trans Fluid inside throttle body
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Sorry for the delay, but yes I had this problem, and yes it was solved by changing the modulator. I change my tranny oil, my engine oil, and change too the vacuum line that goes from the modulator to the throttle.
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#187787 - 12/30/06 11:21 AM
Re: Trans Fluid inside throttle body
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I finally got around to buying a replacement vac modulator...it looks like the one in the picture posted by blackarrow. However, the existing one on the car looks more like an old valve cover breather. It's much larger, and a light blueish color. It is physically located on the driver's side, front of the transmission, and has one vacuum line coming out of it.
Am I correct in assuming the replacement part I bought is an adjustable modulator and the one on the car is not? If so, am I also correct in assuming it should be pre-set and I shouldn't have to fiddle with it?
..and one final question, is replacement straightforward considering the existing one is slightly different?
Thanks in advance.
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#187788 - 01/02/07 11:02 PM
Re: Trans Fluid inside throttle body
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The replacement is straightforward and you can use as is or turn the set screw clockwise 2 turns for slightly firmer shifts.Chico.
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