#188927 - 12/28/09 07:13 PM
78 Dodge Aspen R/T with issues
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I finally made the effort to meet my new neighbor today. He has one of the rare aforementioned cars that has driveability issues. If anyone here can help, thatd be great.
The issue, to me, seems to be fueling. It is the 318 2bbl 4-on-the-floor. When I tried to goose the happy pedal while idling in the driveway, it stalled out. The owner told me he has that issue even while driving. I suggested dialing in the carb, replacing fuel filter, FILLING THE TANK WITH GAS, and checking the jets of his carbs. What else could there be?
When trying to start his car back up after I stalled it, I laid my foot on the clutch, as gently as I would my Camaro, turned the key, and nothing happened. He said you hafta jam the clutch in pretty hard. Is that the case with these Embargo-Era Mopars? Or is it the case on HIS Embargo-Era Mopar?
Yeah, there was a LOT of skin cancer EVERYWHERE on this car, but it looked straight and relatively solid. Cool lookin car, thats for DARN sure. He wants to sell, I tried to convince him to keep it. It's a RARE muscle car that wont take much to get running, wont take much to keep running, and will turn some SERIOUS heads once complete.
Hey, I sure appreciate any constructive input from anyone here (yes, even you, GTPGXP).
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#188929 - 12/28/09 08:15 PM
Re: 78 Dodge Aspen R/T with issues
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as in rebuild the carb, or JUST clean?
I'll let him know. Are those old clutches that...peculiar? Particular? UUGH, that much of a PITA or are they supposed to be just as smooth as Shianne?
Thanks for postin up, Herc.
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#188930 - 12/28/09 08:24 PM
Re: 78 Dodge Aspen R/T with issues
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yea i would clean up the carb too, or have it rebuilt. and also check the fuel pump. it could be bad and need replaced. with the car bein that old, the fuel pump might be mechanical. it the clutch the orginial clutch? he might want to put in a whole new clutch kit.
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#188931 - 12/28/09 08:27 PM
Re: 78 Dodge Aspen R/T with issues
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iirc, he already replaced the clutch, but not sure. I'll ask.
Not sure about the fuel pump, either, I'll ask and suggest.
since this age and type of vehicle is new to me, would it be more cost-effective to buy a remanufactured carb or rebuild himself?
I plan on helping him as much as I can. His Dad was in the Army as well, and didnt make it home from Iraq. He was one year away from retiring.
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#188932 - 12/28/09 08:34 PM
Re: 78 Dodge Aspen R/T with issues
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did he replace the whole clutch, preasure plate and all? it would be cheaper to just rebuilt the carb. and get a rebuild kit at most auto parts stores. sorry to hear that about his dad.
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#188934 - 12/28/09 08:51 PM
Re: 78 Dodge Aspen R/T with issues
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Could be as simple as bad accelerator pump. With carbs, pressing the pedal will cause the accelerator pump to squirt in some gas to overcome the immediate lean condition as the throttle blade opens. With the motor not running, you should be able to look into the carb and move the linkage and see gas squirt in. These pumps are usually adjustable with different holes in the linkage.
Check fuel pressure and fuel filter which should be inline at the carb. If the fuel pressure is too low or high..... well you know.
I will send this to my best buddy who has more old Mopars than you can imagine. I'm sure he has more info than you will ever need.
As far as a rebuild kit. Buy a Holley kit, not a cheap aftermarket one.
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#188935 - 12/28/09 09:04 PM
Re: 78 Dodge Aspen R/T with issues
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GTPGXP: I have no idea. I have yet to talk to him again. I most likely will tomorrow.
Herc: I'll be sure to keep the rebuild advice in mind when I talk to the guy.
72Chevy: I'm guessing your advice would be to rebuild over buy?
I can imagine that, when I talk to him again tomorrow, I'll hafta have my computer handy to show him this thread. Thanks, fellas, for your input.
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#188936 - 12/28/09 09:13 PM
Re: 78 Dodge Aspen R/T with issues
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Mopar experts response:
Failed accelerator pump, choke setting on the carb, incorrect idle speed, vacuum leak somewhere, incorrect ignition timing or faulty coil. Timing has jumped due to a failed timing chain and/or cam gear. Check the compression to verify the condition of the engine ( it is over 30 years old). Clutch interlock switch misadjusted or broken for the restart issue.
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#188937 - 12/28/09 09:14 PM
Re: 78 Dodge Aspen R/T with issues
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no problem, keep us posted. i will try and help as much as i can.
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#188938 - 12/28/09 09:23 PM
Re: 78 Dodge Aspen R/T with issues
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Thx a whole lot 72Chevy! that feeds a LOT of info. He will get this tomorrow.
GTPGXP: will do.
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#188939 - 12/29/09 12:40 AM
Re: 78 Dodge Aspen R/T with issues
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If the clutch doesn't respond unless you put it to the floor, adjust the linkage.
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#188941 - 12/29/09 11:02 PM
Re: 78 Dodge Aspen R/T with issues
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So it will run reasonbly well when idleing? remove the air cleaner and see if the choke is open once it's warm if it does'nt open try manualy opening the choke and give a shot of acceloration if it accelorates fine you have found the problem (faulty choke ) now if the choke is open when warm and still stumles when you goose it 72 chev man had your answer the accelorator pump is faulty and the carb should e rebuilt ,either buy a kit or purchase a rebuilt,do'nt forget to install new fuel filter and air filter.Chico(pops)
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