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#3145 - 08/07/10 12:32 AM My homemade coilovers FINISHED MAY 10, 2011
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Finally finished them up tonight. Don't have them in yet but I will post again after I see how well they work and low they go.

These are KYB-AGX struts with 12" 350# springs.

I used a stock mount, the collar inside it and front sway bar end links. I had to buy a few parts from Summit Racing: thrust bearings, springs, sleeve, nut and top hats. I had tried to use Rancho shock boots as dust boots but they were just a little too big to fit inside the spring frown I saw someone on CGP mention a miata steering boot, might try that later on.

So I started with cutting apart the mount. Used an air hacksaw to cut away the rubber and the metal collar inside the mount. Then took a cutoff wheel and cut the metal off the bottom. Once that was done I welded the bump cup to the mount though I don't have a picture of just that.





I then took a grinder to the collar that is in the stock mount. I grinded the top so it would fit inside the top hat. This takes the play out of the top hat and the strut and makes it move up/down with the strut. Because the bore of the hole in the top hat is bigger than the strut shaft I had to use this. I also cut the collar in half to make it shorter for more strut travel but don't have a picture of it after I cut it.


Here is the collar in the top hat.


After that the top mount is done. I then moved on to the strut. Using a cut off wheel, air hacksaw, a spray bottle of water and a bucket of water I worked at removing the spring perch. I used the cut off wheel first and slowly worked around the perch just above the weld. I was spraying the strut with water to cool it down and then dipping it in the bucket every so often. Would suck to ruin a good strut! Once the perch is off I had to grind the weld down to fit the sleeve over the strut. Also, for alignment issues you may want to ream the holes out on the bottom of the strut to give you more movement. Thanks to Weirdo for that tip.


Edited by r.s.hutchinson (05/11/11 10:16 AM)
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#3146 - 08/07/10 12:33 AM Re: My homemade COILOVERS (56k no)
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After that, pound the sleeve on.

Now on to the bushing stack up. I used stock sway bar endlinks. I cut the top off of them so one side was perfectly flat and left the other side untouched.
If you look at the picture of them below, the sides I cut off are where the two bushings touch each other. You need these since the strut has to have some movement. One goes on each side of the mount.
I also used the metal washers that came with them. I drilled both the rubber bushings and the washers larger to fit over the strut shaft which you can see in a picture later on.



After that you're ready to assemble.
Struts

Sleeve, nut, washer, bearing, washer, spring

close up of washers and thrust bearing

here I attempted to get a picture of the ground down collar and top hat while it was on

Then put on the collar and the top hat

After the top hat is on, the first sway bar bushing goes on. You can see it sandwiched between the top hat and mount.

Then on goes the mount, the second sway bar bushing, the sway bar washer and then finally the strut nut.
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#3147 - 08/07/10 12:34 AM Re: My homemade COILOVERS (56k no)
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And admire!




Critique, suggestions and comments welcome.
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#3148 - 08/07/10 12:57 AM Re: My homemade COILOVERS (56k no)
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those look so new and shiny nice work
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#3149 - 08/07/10 01:53 AM Re: My homemade COILOVERS (56k no)
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industrious and inventive...I hope they hold up under hard use, but they look pretty solid.

Nice work thumbsup
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#3150 - 08/07/10 01:57 AM Re: My homemade COILOVERS (56k no)
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Is there anything you can't do? Nice job!
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#3151 - 08/07/10 01:58 AM Re: My homemade COILOVERS (56k no)
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Wow thats awesome.
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#3152 - 08/07/10 08:03 AM Re: My homemade COILOVERS (56k no)
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if this works, u r SOO making me some coilovers!! I dont CARE what you say! lol
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#3153 - 08/07/10 08:11 AM Re: My homemade COILOVERS (56k no)
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Quote:
Originally posted by ThunderBat:
industrious and inventive...I hope they hold up under hard use, but they look pretty solid.

Nice work thumbsup
Thanks Tim, I think they will hold up quite well. The only thing that is going to wear is maybe the bearings since they are open to dirt and debris. Unfortunately there is no sealed unit as of yet but hopefully down the road.

My first mount idea had them nearly completely hidden from dirt but unfortunately when they are the on the mount side when you tighten the nut on top of the strut they bind because they are too tight. So we are forced right now to have them there or on top of the spring although either way they are going to get dirt in them.

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Originally posted by GrandPrixGTAlpine:
Is there anything you can't do? Nice job!
Thanks. And haha, you could do these too man with the right tools and patience, don't sell yourself short.

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Wow thats awesome.
Yes, it is. Awesome.
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#3154 - 08/07/10 08:18 AM Re: My homemade COILOVERS (56k no)
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Quote:
Originally posted by '01 GT:
if this works, u r SOO making me some coilovers!! I dont CARE what you say! lol
I just gave you step by step instructions, now get out there. I want to see them done by tonight!

I won't have time to do another set for a little while, I'm working on finishing my little projects I have started, Got my AVIC-D3 all mounted in and working on fiberglassing my dash now to make it look pretty. You should see the mounts I made for it lol.

You know the saying "Measure twice, cut once"?, well I forgot the first step and did the second one.... about 5 times.... lol. But they work well.
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#3155 - 08/07/10 11:20 AM Re: My homemade COILOVERS (56k no)
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That's awesome man.

How much did it cost you in parts?

Another project... just what I need...
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#3156 - 08/07/10 12:01 PM Re: My homemade COILOVERS (56k no)
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Well I got the sleeves, nut, top hat, springs and bearings for around $225.

Then I just used old stock sway bar end links and my stock mounts and AGX's.

All parts were from Summit.

If you are looking to do it though I would take a look at Eaton Rice's DIY coilover thread on CGP, he has links to all the stuff that work exactly. My sleeves were for a Mustang coilover kit and the springs were 350# 12" springs from Summit, so it is a mix-match setup and if you were to buy the pieces that I used it would cost more than $225 because I bought mine from Hellfish on CGP.

I gotta go right now but I will PM you more info if you are interested.
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#3157 - 08/07/10 05:16 PM Re: My homemade COILOVERS (56k no)
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I'm interested. Might just use some old stock struts.
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#3158 - 08/08/10 08:45 PM Re: My homemade COILOVERS (56k no)
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Quote:
Originally posted by ordonez1307:
I'm interested. Might just use some old stock struts.
They would last longer than using lowering springs.

Just copying and pasting from a local forum

Originally Posted By: "Silver Z34"

Pics of all the parts laid out in the order they are installed would be really helpful.


Originally Posted By: "Silver Z34"
I just thought of something...on stock assemblies the bearing is on top ...on yours its at the bottom....what is going to keep crap out of the bearings?


Yep, bearing is on bottom because essentially when lowered the bearings are going to be right near the bottom of the strut where it bolts through the spindle, it will be safer there then on the top where the tires fling dirt/water up when they turn. Though Aligater is right, I would need some dust boots to keep the crap out but it would have to be something custom. I am currently working on an idea and think they will work well, just need to find the right materials.

OKAY! So on to the pics. Mike, these are the pics you asked for.

Showing everything used for this and in the order they go from left to right.


Here is pics of everything as I put it on.
Washer, then thrust bearing (took it with top washer off so you could see the bearing)



Then next washer


Then spring


Then collar


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#3159 - 08/08/10 08:46 PM Re: My homemade COILOVERS (56k no)
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Here are some pics to show how the collar goes in the top hat:
Top of both

Side

Bottom

Now the collar inside the top hat (looking at bottom)


Then top hat


Here are the sway bar end link bushings I cut up to show which side I cut off. I also had to bore the holes out to fit over the strut shaft. Big PITA to drill this rubber.

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