I took my car to a family known gm master mechanic and he says my car needs a new electronic brake and traction control module + screws.

All and all it will cost 1200 for the part and 100 for the labor he says.

Where can I go to get this part for cheaper? I need this done for the winter. Theres no way I'm going to pay that. The most I would pay to have my traction control and abs working would be in the 200-300 range.

Any links to places I can find the part or advice on what I should do are greaatttlyyyy appreciated. I need a search and couldn't find the part anywhere.

Im freaking out over school and finals and so much more... this tops off my thanksgiving holiday...

how did he come to that diagnosis? I've never heard of that going bad. what are the symptoms?

My ABS light and Traction control are on. been on and off past 10 months, but the past 4 months theyve been on permanently. Niether work.
I dont know how he came up with the diagnosis but, he's a master tech. Ill ask him later today when i go get my wounded baby...

I would say its a hub abs sensor out (common)....

Might be worth having the dealer scan your car for you and tell you which one is bad...


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(edited some spelling misteaks, need to proofread...) I cant spell for crap!

Sensor in the wheel hub gone bad.
Replace the wheel hub to fix.

x2 with Austin and Mike. Just need to figure out which one has failed.

I had this problem (my abs light came on and stayed on for about a month) and they fixed it with the problem that Austin said.

the master tech said that he couldnt even get a reading from it to determine what was wrong it was so messed up. He had to go through everything.

He also said whoever sold me the car must have known about it.

What makes you so sure its the wheel hub or sensor, and isnt actually the ebtcm???

he scanned it to find out which one, and got nothing out of it. It's un-scannable? He said it must be the ebtcm. Does the ebtcm tell you which wheel hub it would be? because that's whats going on.

They do go bad, it's rare but it does happen. I read not to long ago on another site where someone said they had to get one from Morad.

Actually, it's quite often that they go bad.

interesting. Try and find a pick-and-pull junkyard nearby, I bet you can grab what you need from a junk vehicle for dirt cheap.

Hub sensors fail often. The comp not so often but it does. I'd contact Ed Morad and see what he's got for you.

If that's still a pricey fix have the hubs changed anyways. Chances are they need changing anyways.

What cars can i pull it from? Does it have to be from a 2002 GTP or can it be 97-03 gts and gtp or what?

Also: does anyone know the part number?

And where can i find pictures of it and where its located?

I'm pretty sure you can use a 98-02 GT/GTP.

I'm not sure what other cars used the same system.

Email Ed what you need and he should be able to help.

found this at GMPartsdirect.com

Control module, pontiac, 3.8l, w/supercharger
98-02 MSRP$1,094.82 Your price $569.28
Order By Description. Parts & Prices For Estimating Only.

From that website looks like your stuck looking for one from 98-02 GTP only.

Well, based on the price, I'm guessing it may be part number 12209624, but I'm not sure (found on rockauto.com) You should see if the mechanic can give you the part number. The part I listed is called the "PWRT controller", no idea what that stands for.

interchangables are listed as 01-02 lesabres, park avenues, regals, camaros, impalas, monte carlos, bonnevilles, firebirds, and grand prixes.

LOL, just looked up '99 prixes, their module is only $185. 01/02's got shafted!

FAIL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

:p I'll spell how I want.

Here you go:

Electronic Brake Control Module (EBCM) Replacement
Removal Procedure

Notice
To prevent equipment damage, never connect or disconnect the wiring harness connection from the EBCM with the ignition switch in the ON position.


1. Turn the ignition switch to the OFF position.

2. For the 3.8L engine only, remove the fuel injector sight shield.

3. Remove the upper diagonal brace from the front fender.

4. Disconnect the accelerator and cruise control cable from the accelerator control cable bracket.

5. Disconnect the cruise control module from the left strut tower. It is not necessary to remove the cable from the module.

6. Remove the air cleaner intake duct.



7. Disengage the locking tab (1) from the EBCM harness connector.

8. Disconnect the EBCM harness connector.

9. Remove any dirt/debris from the assembly.



10. Remove the 6 retainers (2) that connect the EBCM to the BPMV.

Important
Do not pry apart using a tool. Be careful not to damage the BPMV surface.

Important
Do NOT damage the solenoid valves when you remove the EBCM from the BPMV.

11. Separate the EBCM (1) from the BPMV (4) by gently pulling apart until separated.

12. Disconnect the pump motor connector (3) at the bottom of the EBCM.

For re-install, retainers get torqued to 26 in-lbs.

Is that just for a EBCM? It might be a bit different for a EBTCM. They are 2 different things. The EBTCM has more to it and controls more things.

ABS and TCS are entirely controlled by the EBCM and the BPMV. BPMV is the mechanical part, EBCM is the electrical control. This is definately the procedure for the job your mechanic is recommending.

I thought EBCM and EBTCM were 2 different things. I'm gonna leave this up to the mechanic. But i gotta grab this part from a junk yard