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#27149 - 11/26/08 12:40 PM Alright crap... need advice on EBTCM
burtonsyncro Offline
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I took my car to a family known gm master mechanic and he says my car needs a new electronic brake and traction control module + screws.

All and all it will cost 1200 for the part and 100 for the labor he says.

Where can I go to get this part for cheaper? I need this done for the winter. Theres no way I'm going to pay that. The most I would pay to have my traction control and abs working would be in the 200-300 range.

Any links to places I can find the part or advice on what I should do are greaatttlyyyy appreciated. I need a search and couldn't find the part anywhere.

Im freaking out over school and finals and so much more... this tops off my thanksgiving holiday...
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#27150 - 11/26/08 12:55 PM Re: Alright crap... need advice on EBTCM
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how did he come to that diagnosis? I've never heard of that going bad. what are the symptoms?
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#27151 - 11/26/08 12:58 PM Re: Alright crap... need advice on EBTCM
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My ABS light and Traction control are on. been on and off past 10 months, but the past 4 months theyve been on permanently. Niether work.
I dont know how he came up with the diagnosis but, he's a master tech. Ill ask him later today when i go get my wounded baby... frown
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#27152 - 11/26/08 01:07 PM Re: Alright crap... need advice on EBTCM
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I would say its a hub abs sensor out (common)....

Might be worth having the dealer scan your car for you and tell you which one is bad...


edit:
(edited some spelling misteaks, need to proofread...) I cant spell for crap!
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#27153 - 11/26/08 01:09 PM Re: Alright crap... need advice on EBTCM
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Sensor in the wheel hub gone bad.
Replace the wheel hub to fix.
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#27154 - 11/26/08 01:21 PM Re: Alright crap... need advice on EBTCM
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x2 with Austin and Mike. Just need to figure out which one has failed.
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#27155 - 11/26/08 01:28 PM Re: Alright crap... need advice on EBTCM
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I had this problem (my abs light came on and stayed on for about a month) and they fixed it with the problem that Austin said.
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#27156 - 11/26/08 01:36 PM Re: Alright crap... need advice on EBTCM
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the master tech said that he couldnt even get a reading from it to determine what was wrong it was so messed up. He had to go through everything.

He also said whoever sold me the car must have known about it.

What makes you so sure its the wheel hub or sensor, and isnt actually the ebtcm???
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#27157 - 11/26/08 01:46 PM Re: Alright crap... need advice on EBTCM
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he scanned it to find out which one, and got nothing out of it. It's un-scannable? He said it must be the ebtcm. Does the ebtcm tell you which wheel hub it would be? because that's whats going on.
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#27158 - 11/26/08 01:52 PM Re: Alright crap... need advice on EBTCM
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They do go bad, it's rare but it does happen. I read not to long ago on another site where someone said they had to get one from Morad.
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#27159 - 11/26/08 01:54 PM Re: Alright crap... need advice on EBTCM
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Quote:
Originally posted by GTP-MAX:
They do go bad, it's rare but it does happen.
Actually, it's quite often that they go bad.
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#27160 - 11/26/08 02:01 PM Re: Alright crap... need advice on EBTCM
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interesting. Try and find a pick-and-pull junkyard nearby, I bet you can grab what you need from a junk vehicle for dirt cheap.
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#27161 - 11/26/08 02:34 PM Re: Alright crap... need advice on EBTCM
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Hub sensors fail often. The comp not so often but it does. I'd contact Ed Morad and see what he's got for you.

If that's still a pricey fix have the hubs changed anyways. Chances are they need changing anyways.
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#27162 - 11/26/08 04:07 PM Re: Alright crap... need advice on EBTCM
burtonsyncro Offline
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What cars can i pull it from? Does it have to be from a 2002 GTP or can it be 97-03 gts and gtp or what?

Also: does anyone know the part number?

And where can i find pictures of it and where its located?
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#27163 - 11/26/08 04:13 PM Re: Alright crap... need advice on EBTCM
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I'm pretty sure you can use a 98-02 GT/GTP.

I'm not sure what other cars used the same system.

Email Ed what you need and he should be able to help.
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