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#33484 - 05/30/05 05:15 PM Intermittant ABS grumble
gary Offline
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1998 Grand Prix 3100 SE with 106K miles. For several weeks now, every now and then when coming to a easy stop, as I'm just about stopped, there'll be a "grumble" from under the hood and the brake peddle will vibrate. A few times this has also resulted in a ABS light on the dash which was turned off by turning off the engine then restarting.

I've had this happen on rare occasion before, but ever since I had the tires rotated and balanced a couple weeks ago, it's been doing it about 5% of my easy stops.

About half a year ago I replaced the front brake pads, but chose to leave the back ones alone bacause more than half the pad material was still left on the back brakes. I didn't turn the rotors at that time because the car was SO smooth in its stopping. It still is for that matter, except for this ABS related thing.

Question: Anyone have any insight into what this ABS related thing is?

Regards, Gary in Sandy Eggo
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#33485 - 05/30/05 05:32 PM Re: Intermittant ABS grumble
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Possible hub bearing going bad, maybe?
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#33486 - 05/30/05 05:56 PM Re: Intermittant ABS grumble
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If you have a grumble under the hood and the pedal vibrates, it sounds to me like the ABS is kicking in.

Would a hub bearing cause the ABS to trigger?
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#33487 - 05/30/05 06:26 PM Re: Intermittant ABS grumble
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If the speed sensor on the hub is screwed up it will. Only way to replace the sensor is to replace the entire hub. And with 106k on it my guess is a bad hub. Only way to tell which one at this point is to have the car scanned. Their should be an ABS code stored in there.
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#33488 - 05/30/05 11:42 PM Re: Intermittant ABS grumble
gary Offline
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Quote:
Originally posted by UMfan: Would a hub bearing cause the ABS to trigger?
Aha!!! Beat information out of me. You asked if a hub bearing would cause ABS to trigger. Don't know. What I DO know and failed to include before is that ever since the tire rotation, I'm getting a very mild "runt-runt-runt-runt" sound from one of the tires up front. It's the sound that can indicate many things: wheel bearing, or blister on tire, or flat spot on tire. Wheel bearing - hmmmmmmmm.

Keep the ideas coming.

Regards, Gary in Sandy Eggo
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#33489 - 05/31/05 06:21 AM Re: Intermittant ABS grumble
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Also low tire pressure could cause ABS activation. Check tire pressures first.
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#33490 - 06/02/05 11:42 AM Re: Intermittant ABS grumble
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Quote:
Originally posted by HercMan:
Also low tire pressure could cause ABS activation. Check tire pressures first.
Tires are OK. Run 35psi all around.
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#33491 - 06/02/05 12:23 PM Re: Intermittant ABS grumble
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Quote:
Originally posted by gary:
You asked if a hub bearing would cause ABS to trigger. Don't know.
The ABS sensor is in the hub bearing, so yes it could cause it to trigger.
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#33492 - 06/02/05 08:53 PM Re: Intermittant ABS grumble
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Hello,

Question.
If it's a hub sensor, and it's causing the ABS to kick in......Even if it wasn't throwing a code, wouldn't the "low trac" light illuminate?

Later now,
Clint
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#33493 - 06/02/05 09:39 PM Re: Intermittant ABS grumble
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I don't know it decelerating would cause the low trac light to come on or only under accell.
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