#34292 - 08/22/07 11:24 AM
Re: Turbo v. Supercharged
|
Member
|
Registered: 04/22/05
Posts: 3075
Loc: Cleveland, OH
|
|
I say super. While turbos have taken our car furthest, its a matter of preference of feel. I've seen people complain about how their turbo 3.8 drives on the street. Sure, slam the pedal and it will haul ass (almost a second later) but I guess some people aren't happy with light-medium driving. I just like the instantaneous feel of a supercharger. I can roll into the throttle and feel the instant response.
|
Top
|
|
|
|
#34293 - 08/22/07 11:38 AM
Re: Turbo v. Supercharged
|
Member
|
Registered: 04/21/06
Posts: 950
Loc: Charlotte, NC
|
|
I'de like a superturbonitrocharger personally
_________________________
|
Top
|
|
|
|
#34294 - 08/22/07 12:35 PM
Re: Turbo v. Supercharged
|
Member
|
Registered: 11/05/04
Posts: 2108
Loc: Livonia, MI
|
|
Originally posted by D Bold: hey chris, i'm not goin for the autozone ricer look...I'm going for a factory look. So the grand prix turbo badge is ideal here. That turbo simulator thing is absolutely ridiculous, but it makes me laugh. I would put it in a real junky car as a joke.
hey 2fast4u, what year is that 'BU?? its a 97 with the 3.1
|
Top
|
|
|
|
#34295 - 08/22/07 02:08 PM
Re: Turbo v. Supercharged
|
Member
|
Registered: 04/03/07
Posts: 3307
Loc: Texas
|
|
Originally posted by ordonez1307: i just saw this thread.
Turbo.
the fastest M90 car is a 10 something. Turbo is a 9.01.
if you have the cash, the turbo is the best mod for these cars I see what you're saying, but unless you are a hardcore racer, that one second won't really matter. You won't have a daily driver that runs a 9 sec quarter mile. Besides, isn't that car twin turbo? Because if it is, of course two turbos will beat one supercharger. lol I mean, if you like the turbo, that's cool. I'm just saying, for a daily driver, it's not TONS better than a s/c, IMO.
_________________________
Si vis pacem para bellum Speed Kills. Buy a Civic - Save Lives!
|
Top
|
|
|
|
#34296 - 08/22/07 02:31 PM
Re: Turbo v. Supercharged
|
Member
|
Registered: 07/15/04
Posts: 3141
Loc: Chicago, IL
|
|
*cough**turbo**cough*
_________________________
DHP V1.0, Slotted rotors, S/S Brake Lines, Custom CAI, GMPP Handling Kit, KYB's, Jimmy C DP (U-Bend delete w/ Hi-flow cat), Flowmaster Super 40's, drilled 180° T-Stat, Alt. Rewire & Alt. Voltage Booster Combo, 605's, ZZP Motor Mounts
"The only difference between me and a madman is that I am NOT mad!" - Dali
|
Top
|
|
|
|
#34297 - 08/22/07 02:56 PM
Re: Turbo v. Supercharged
|
Member
|
Registered: 06/30/07
Posts: 459
Loc: Warwick, RI
|
|
Originally posted by 2fast4u: Originally posted by D Bold: [b] hey chris, i'm not goin for the autozone ricer look...I'm going for a factory look. So the grand prix turbo badge is ideal here. That turbo simulator thing is absolutely ridiculous, but it makes me laugh. I would put it in a real junky car as a joke.
hey 2fast4u, what year is that 'BU?? its a 97 with the 3.1 [/b]any mods done to it...my bro has the '99 Bu LS 3.1 and he's looking to mod it. But he doesn't know what to do other than a CAI.
_________________________
I want to get back into a Grand Prix badly!
|
Top
|
|
|
|
#34298 - 08/22/07 05:06 PM
Re: Turbo v. Supercharged
|
Member
|
Registered: 11/05/04
Posts: 2108
Loc: Livonia, MI
|
|
Originally posted by D Bold: Originally posted by 2fast4u: [b] Originally posted by D Bold: [b] hey chris, i'm not goin for the autozone ricer look...I'm going for a factory look. So the grand prix turbo badge is ideal here. That turbo simulator thing is absolutely ridiculous, but it makes me laugh. I would put it in a real junky car as a joke.
hey 2fast4u, what year is that 'BU?? its a 97 with the 3.1 [/b] any mods done to it...my bro has the '99 Bu LS 3.1 and he's looking to mod it. But he doesn't know what to do other than a CAI. [/b]actualy nothing has been done to it...YET. its there for a DD but im gonna cut the cat soon. i have a little no name turbo in my garage im thinking about haveing a little fun with. but i keep telling my self the bu is a DD. i might do that fake turbo and let you guy know how Durrrrrr it is.
|
Top
|
|
|
|
#34299 - 08/22/07 05:42 PM
Re: Turbo v. Supercharged
|
Member
|
Registered: 06/30/07
Posts: 459
Loc: Warwick, RI
|
|
lol haha go over to www.unitedmalibus.com and check out their Daily Drivers
_________________________
I want to get back into a Grand Prix badly!
|
Top
|
|
|
|
#34300 - 08/22/07 07:04 PM
Re: Turbo v. Supercharged
|
Member
|
Registered: 04/18/05
Posts: 8901
Loc: Bradenton, FL
|
|
Originally posted by Acefighter: Originally posted by ordonez1307: [b] i just saw this thread.
Turbo.
the fastest M90 car is a 10 something. Turbo is a 9.01.
if you have the cash, the turbo is the best mod for these cars I see what you're saying, but unless you are a hardcore racer, that one second won't really matter. You won't have a daily driver that runs a 9 sec quarter mile.
Besides, isn't that car twin turbo? Because if it is, of course two turbos will beat one supercharger. lol
I mean, if you like the turbo, that's cool. I'm just saying, for a daily driver, it's not TONS better than a s/c, IMO. [/b]if he is seriously considering a turbo, then i hope he plans on going pretty far modding. No one can do just a turbo and stop. Turbos are way more efficient, and have the potential to do way more. M90's with smaller pulleys have way less efficiency, since they get so hot. This honestly isnt a debate, it all depends on how far he plans on going with the car. if he has the $ go turbo, the potential is amazing. The M90 will hit a wall first. You will spend a lot more money to get an m90 car into the 12/11 range then you will a turbo
_________________________
Corey Smith
|
Top
|
|
|
|
#34301 - 08/22/07 07:06 PM
Re: Turbo v. Supercharged
|
Member
|
Registered: 07/27/07
Posts: 116
Loc: Cranston, RI
|
|
Actually it kinda has become a debate lol.
I started this poll just to see what ppl preferred. Yes the Turbo is much better performance wise, but they both have there ups and downs...
_________________________
01 gt | K&N FIPK | 180* Drilled T Stat | Flowmasters s40 | Dual Stainless steel tips x2 | ZZP v1.0 pcm | 20%tint | Alpine CDA-9885 Deck | 2 12"Lanzer subs 1600watt each | Lanzer 4000watt Class-D amp| Painted Calipers | Smoke covers| more to come!
|
Top
|
|
|
|
#34302 - 08/22/07 09:04 PM
Re: Turbo v. Supercharged
|
Member
|
Registered: 04/30/06
Posts: 3201
Loc: Groton, CT
|
|
Turbo's are much more efficient and suffer far less parasitic loss since they are run off the exhaust gases, instead of being turned by the crank.
Expanding off what ordonez said, an M90 with a 2.55" pulley is taking probably 60-80 hp to spin the blower. So there is a much earlier breaking point to where the gains are overcome by the losses, and with a turbo that's point is a much higher threshold
_________________________
'97 SE with alot of mods
|
Top
|
|
|
|
#34303 - 08/23/07 01:39 AM
Re: Turbo v. Supercharged
|
Member
|
Registered: 07/15/07
Posts: 65
Loc: Montgomery, Il
|
|
anyone like these "Fog lights?"
_________________________
1999 Pontiac Grand Prix GTP - 3.2 S/C pulley, DHP v1.0, Short Ram, 180 T-stat, 2.5 Cat back, PEM's, U-bend delete, Res. delete, Autolite 104's, Sprint Springs, RAT swaybars, GMPP trailing arms, GMPP Strut Tower Brace, Debadged, Powdercoated black torquestars, SD Hood. www.thechicagogarage.org www.ilgpc.com
|
Top
|
|
|
|
#34304 - 08/23/07 01:45 AM
Re: Turbo v. Supercharged
|
Member
|
Registered: 04/03/07
Posts: 3307
Loc: Texas
|
|
OK, I'm really not sure what I'm looking at...lol
_________________________
Si vis pacem para bellum Speed Kills. Buy a Civic - Save Lives!
|
Top
|
|
|
|
#34305 - 08/23/07 01:48 AM
Re: Turbo v. Supercharged
|
Member
|
Registered: 12/27/06
Posts: 2159
Loc: Waterford, WI
|
|
Those are the intake ports on turbos in there...
Thats the compressor fins you're seeing.
And that's sick ILGTP, just sick.
|
Top
|
|
|
|
#34306 - 08/23/07 01:56 AM
Re: Turbo v. Supercharged
|
Member
|
Registered: 07/27/07
Posts: 116
Loc: Cranston, RI
|
|
Holy Damn bro
what loneserling said SICK!!!
_________________________
01 gt | K&N FIPK | 180* Drilled T Stat | Flowmasters s40 | Dual Stainless steel tips x2 | ZZP v1.0 pcm | 20%tint | Alpine CDA-9885 Deck | 2 12"Lanzer subs 1600watt each | Lanzer 4000watt Class-D amp| Painted Calipers | Smoke covers| more to come!
|
Top
|
|
|
|
|
|