Yeah thats what i meant to say. i need to stop posting on here after 12 hour days, i sound like a moron....(no comments please) but also is what i meant is that the 4t653-hd is ultimate...here soon i have the 4t65e and imi gonna have some stuff (hiperf clutches, shift kit and complete rebuild so it makes it less of a "slush box" cant wait no more cruddy shifts