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#9522 - 07/24/06 08:43 AM 97-03 gtp & 2004+up SC
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ive got a 2000 GT im looking into getting a GTP. i was wondering if anyone knew what the difference was that gives the newer SC grand prixs 20 extra HP. smaller factory pulleys? im thinking i will probably just get a 2001 GTP ive been looking at, its navy blue and has 48K for i think 9800. but im sure the sales man can fiond a lower price wink
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#9523 - 07/24/06 12:16 PM Re: 97-03 gtp & 2004+up SC
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No stinkin' U-bend on the newer models.
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#9524 - 07/24/06 12:22 PM Re: 97-03 gtp & 2004+up SC
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so what is the purpose of the U-Bend on the older models??? just to rob HP?
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#9525 - 07/24/06 12:29 PM Re: 97-03 gtp & 2004+up SC
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I think the U-Bend was a spot in the exhaust where it was shrunk and bent so GM could fit an O2 sensor in the exhaust without interference with anything else under the car. But it turned out to be the most restrictive place in the exhaust system.
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#9526 - 07/24/06 03:58 PM Re: 97-03 gtp & 2004+up SC
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Both are correct. Plus the 04+s have a different Lower intake manifold and a more efficient M90.

GM knew the 4T65HD was a weak tranny so they programmed the PCM to torque manage more then the 97-03s. Which means they are slower in the 1/4 mile time. But a reprogrammed PCM will take care of that.

Oh and you can't just bolt on an M90 from the 04 onto the 97-03s without having a modified LIM.
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#9527 - 07/24/06 04:27 PM Re: 97-03 gtp & 2004+up SC
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basically i was just trying to decide which way to go... a 2004 or a 2001 GTP i think im going to go for the 2001 and get a 3" downpipe cool
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#9528 - 07/24/06 05:56 PM Re: 97-03 gtp & 2004+up SC
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04+ baby!!!! I have had both body styles and love my 06 a lot more than my 98.....
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#9529 - 07/24/06 10:28 PM Re: 97-03 gtp & 2004+up SC
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but if i go with the 2001 ill save money for more mods... more mods + more fun...
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#9530 - 07/24/06 10:59 PM Re: 97-03 gtp & 2004+up SC
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Originally posted by pedal down:
but if i go with the 2001 ill save money for more mods... more mods + more fun...
cant argue with that logic wink
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#9531 - 07/25/06 03:41 AM Re: 97-03 gtp & 2004+up SC
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I agree with herc, Gm is known for doing things like that.
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#9532 - 07/25/06 05:44 AM Re: 97-03 gtp & 2004+up SC
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Good choice ,and yes the additional 20hp is due to more efficiant blower but as Herc noted the more aggresive TM will actually make you a bit slower in the 1/4 ,I do'nt know what the 04 gp's are like but in my GTO with the TC on it will literally push the gas pedal back up with some force as soon as it senses any wheel spin,the good thing on the GTO you can turn TC off.Chico.
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