#148476 - 04/27/05 04:48 PM
PCM Reflash needs a CASE learn?
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If I have Intense reflash the PCM with the new settings while its still in the car, will I still need a CASE learn?
How much does the dealer usually charge?
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#148477 - 04/27/05 05:12 PM
Re: PCM Reflash needs a CASE learn?
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If you have a 98 on, it is recommedned that you get a CASE learn done. On the 97's there is a module that you just swap over. This module contains the information that a CASE learn does, so you don't have to get a CASE learn done on a 97.
On a side note...
I've been going about 9 months without a CASE learn, and I'm not really planning on getting it done.
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#148478 - 04/27/05 05:14 PM
Re: PCM Reflash needs a CASE learn?
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It's best to get a case learn to synch everything.
Some people have gone without one and don't get an SES code but others have. It's a hit or miss and up to you.
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#148479 - 04/27/05 05:24 PM
Re: PCM Reflash needs a CASE learn?
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Yeah... what he said
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#148480 - 04/27/05 09:12 PM
Re: PCM Reflash needs a CASE learn?
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The stealership that did mine, said it doesn't really need to be done, but i've heard both sides. Then they did mine free so I wasn't complaining 
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#148481 - 04/28/05 12:40 AM
Re: PCM Reflash needs a CASE learn?
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What is a case learn?
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#148482 - 04/28/05 08:43 AM
Re: PCM Reflash needs a CASE learn?
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It let's the PCM know where the crank shaft is, also known as a crank shaft positioning, or something like that.
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#148483 - 04/28/05 10:40 AM
Re: PCM Reflash needs a CASE learn?
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Originally posted by Canadian GTP: The stealership that did mine, said it doesn't really need to be done, but i've heard both sides. Then they did mine free so I wasn't complaining WOW, down here if you take it to a dealer, they will reprogram to stock. As they say, "it's the law". I'm moving.
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#148484 - 04/28/05 10:51 AM
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Originally posted by kustomkid54: WOW, down here if you take it to a dealer, they will reprogram to stock. As they say, "it's the law".
I'm moving. [/QB]They're full of it!!!  It had to be a stealership. This is what you do. When you go in to a stealership, tell them that you have an aftermarket PCM and for them NOT to re-flash the PCM just a case learn. Also, have them write it down on the invoice clearly so that you can take legal claim if they do re-flash the PCM. Otherwise, find someone else in your area with the knowledge to do it for you.
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#148485 - 04/28/05 01:51 PM
Re: PCM Reflash needs a CASE learn?
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My question is more-so in reference to the fact the PCM was going to stay in the car and wasn't going to be removed. It looks like that is not a factor.
Looks like its a matter of the PCM being re-programmed, regardless if power was still going to it or not.
Was deciding if I should drive to intense to flash or install a DHP. Looks like a case learn is eminent regardless.
I rather have everything sync up just for the sake of efficiency.
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#148486 - 04/28/05 03:49 PM
Re: PCM Reflash needs a CASE learn?
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FYI, There was a deal from DHP that if you wanted to send them your IPCM, they would convert it to DHP for $75. Not sure if it's still in effect.
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