in about a week or so im gonna buy the tog headers and bolt on R/T downpipe with high flow cat is there anything else i will need? what gains if any will i get? should anything else be done before this?

Make sure you get all the gaskets. I see in your sig you don't have a CAI. I highly recommend you upgrade your intake.

headers are a few steps down the list. But im sure you will notice a difference likewise.

BTW, you can reuse the stock exhaust manifold gaskets that are currently on the car

Double check the RT downpipe's compatibility with TOG headers....I thought you need a TOG downpipe to work with these headers, but I could be wrong.

I would get new exhaust gaskets.

Well it's actually the uppipe from the TOGs. It should be compatible with any other DP as long as the DP is 3".

I agree, the new Felpros are $10-$15 for both. Why chance exhaust leaks?

ok yea on 3800 they have the togs and have a bolt up R/T that replaces that small pipe. so a 3 inch after the cat will fit on the stock? how hard is it to replace the rear heads?

im cheap!

Hah, it's not a big deal, I just didn't want to have to take off the exhaust manifolds again in 2 months so I got new gaskets. Almost all gaskets are single use though so I figure might as well replace.

gaskets are good to replace they get crushed when used to lock the seal......i recently did a cam n planning on more air (68mm TB) headers are said to be good with these 2 for smokin gtp's.....im interested in the 1/4 mile not smokin gtps but can i bolt in the pacesetter headers (http://www.zzperformance.com/grand_prix/products1.php?id=598&catid=110) with my 3" DP thats allready in?.....looking for a high 13 with slicks

No, the Pacesetters replace the whole downpipe and bolt to the resonator/exhaust. This is one of the reasons I went ahead and got them instead of buying a DP and upgrading later.

ive got to be able to contact them and just get the piping to the DP no?

They come with their own downpipe that uses 3-bolt flange and bolts to the Y. The downpipe won't bolt up without modification.

Neither Togs or Pacesetter headers are a good choice for the n/a 3.8 you will loose to much tourqe ,a better choice would be S&S headers or ZZP's power lor and rear ported Mnfld.