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#15774 - 04/30/04 08:43 PM Shed a tear, famous problem!
techron Offline
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1997 GTP, 107k miles, fuel pump finally went! even though ive only had the car for the last 7k miles, but had to have it toed 9 miles to my house. suggestions for doing on my own?
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#15775 - 04/30/04 08:58 PM Re: Shed a tear, famous problem!
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Yeah....got a hydraulic rack to do it on?? Youll have fun with that job!..Naw though, youll have to siphon out a good deal of the gas out of the tank and drop the tank itself, but other than that, it should be just taking the old pump out and plugging(or splicing in) the new one..Plan on it being a 3 hour job if youre working by yourself..or longer depending on whether or not you take your time. If it were mine..Id take an extra hour or even two and do it RIGHT THE FIRST TIME!! Finish that fuel pump so you can hammer hammer hammer
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#15776 - 04/30/04 08:59 PM Re: Shed a tear, famous problem!
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Geez! Makes me wonder about mine, which has 106k on it... eek
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#15777 - 04/30/04 09:43 PM Re: Shed a tear, famous problem!
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oh good God!!! you have to expect thing's to go at those mile's in a car!!! Next is the water pump and other odd's and end's...just keep changing the motor oil and tranny fluid and everthing will be fine.
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#15778 - 04/30/04 10:36 PM Re: Shed a tear, famous problem!
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Always a critic in the crowd, huh?..Man I was just kidding with him..I think Ive been working with cars enough to know that things are gonna go wrong after a while.. If you dont have anything good to say, just dont say anything at all.. wink :rolleyes:
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#15779 - 05/01/04 08:20 AM Re: Shed a tear, famous problem!
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make sure that what ever you do, you put that seal in right, I had a ton of problems with my Olds Aurora because some idiot mechanic didn`t install the seal right (our GP`s have a similar pump) & I had tons of crap going into the tank , after 3k miles of the pump being installed the thing gave out again, and at this time they had to change pump, flush tank, clean injectors, flush lines (a 900 dollar deal) so I learned my lesson, either someone qualified works on my cars or I do, but not going to the (privatelly owned shops) anymore.
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#15780 - 05/01/04 11:31 AM Re: Shed a tear, famous problem!
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Is the fuel pump on the Grand Prix one of these famous GM "inside the gas tank" jobs?
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#15781 - 05/01/04 02:27 PM Re: Shed a tear, famous problem!
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yes indeed it is..I believe all of the GM cars and trucks are of that design.. banghead confused
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#15782 - 05/01/04 03:50 PM Re: Shed a tear, famous problem!
Marc Harbison Offline
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You might want to search a little on ClubGP's forums. Last I checked, you don't have to drop the tank and the pump is not inside it. If you pull back the carpet inside your trunk, you'll notice a small hatch with a couple screws. Pull the cover off that hatch and you'll be staring you fuel pump in the face. Makes the job much easier.

Good luck,
Marc
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#15783 - 05/01/04 06:23 PM Re: Shed a tear, famous problem!
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SWEET!! Im glad that I was wrong! On most GM models I knew that the only way to it was to drop the tank..but yeah..thats a whole lot easier.. laugh hammer
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#15784 - 05/01/04 11:48 PM Re: Shed a tear, famous problem!
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Well, we replaced the fuel pump today!

We went to NAPA autoparts and got the fuel pump for $265 under a company discount. Orginally i think it was listed as $400 if im correct. i'de have to look at the reciept. anyways theres a service pannel for the fuel pump in your trunk, you have to gut everything out of your trunk first and bam its right there dead in the center. easy as pie cakes. installation was very easy too.

at the same time we replaced the fuel filter that is below the car (probably never replaced) that was harder to get off than the fuel pump. had to use the dremel to break the bolt. kinda scary since there were sparks and gas, bad idea but it worked and nothing blew up or got hurt. we replaced it with the NAPA Gold fuel filter and that ran us $13 bucks.

It wasnt as bad as i thought it was going to be. smile hope this may help some one in the future
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#15785 - 05/02/04 09:50 PM Re: Shed a tear, famous problem!
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Congrats on the easy install. You got lucky, I couldn't get my fuel filter off. I had to have a shop do it.
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#15786 - 05/02/04 11:26 PM Re: Shed a tear, famous problem!
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"Orginally i think it was listed as $400 if im correct."

Damn! eek
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#15787 - 05/04/04 09:36 PM Re: Shed a tear, famous problem!
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Information: to get the fuel filter off; disconect the negative battery cable in order to keep the fuel pump from sending fuel to the injectors and relieve some presure off the filter, next take the gas cap off to complety depresurize the fuel line. In this way you can get that dificult nut to move and get the filter off the line. thumbsup
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#15788 - 05/04/04 11:54 PM Re: Shed a tear, famous problem!
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Fuel filter never changed after 100k? JEbus....that could be why your pump went out if that filter was really dirty which it probably was that can make the pump work extra hard. I changed my 98gt filter @ 80k when i bought it and i got rid of it at almost 130 with only an alternator and a minor oilpan leak as problems in the car. leave it to the general that can turn a car out that can hammer the rice outta new four bangers with 130k miles on it

Its spring and the first road trip is comin up soon in the 04gp so i will keep hammer
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