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#129662 - 12/25/04 10:19 PM U Bend Delete Question
nad Offline
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Registered: 07/08/04
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Loc: Imperial MO
Exactly how much power does a U Bend delete add? It looks like a fairly complicated mod, is it pretty easy to do yourself, or would I need to take it to a shop and get it done? Just wondering, cuz I noticed a lot of people have it done, I didnt know if it added a crapload of power and if it was easy to do or not. Thanks.
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SOLD-1998 Grand Prix GT with 148K. Infinity Reference 5.25s, Pioneer 4 way 6x9s, Yokohama AS430s, Open cone K&N intake, Front strut bar,180* Powerstat, Dual glasspack mufflers w/ removed resonator, and painted under-hood components.-SOLD-

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#129663 - 12/26/04 08:30 AM Re: U Bend Delete Question
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Loc: North Carolina - Raleigh/Cary
The best explanation I've seen before regarding this question is that deleting the u-bend doesn't really add much power at all, maybe 3-5hp at most, but rather it opens up the exhaust so that in conjunction with other exhaust mods it can free-up the potential for ALOT of power. Unless you have some welding skill and equipment you're better off going to an exhaust shop and having them do it for you. It cost me about sixty bucks, for labor and the replacement piece. I bought a replacement o2 sensor rather than expecting the old one to remove from the u-bend. Alot of people recommend just getting the o2 spoof instead of the actual sensor.
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#129664 - 12/26/04 09:04 AM Re: U Bend Delete Question
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Loc: Gonzales Tx.
Exactly ,you can buy a premade piece from PFYC or have a muffler shop make you one up but if you buy a RAT DP you will kill 2 birds with one stone it eliminates the u-bend and you get a much better DP and hi-flow cat all at once and about 10whp to boot.
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#129665 - 12/26/04 12:18 PM Re: U Bend Delete Question
hot2000gtp Offline
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Registered: 11/14/04
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Loc: Cleveland Ohio
If you delete the ubend some flowmaster 40 series might go nice with that.

Chico, how much does the RAT DP cost and where can I look for one. Also does it have an o2 sensor or can i move the old one to it?
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#129666 - 12/26/04 01:24 PM Re: U Bend Delete Question
Chico Offline
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Loc: Gonzales Tx.
Look on GP store on this site they have them there along with the answer to your burning questions.
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#129667 - 12/26/04 01:54 PM Re: U Bend Delete Question
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Loc: North Carolina - Raleigh/Cary
Hey Chico, will the RAT DP work with the 3.1L engine? I know it could modified to fit regardless, but would it work as is, or would it require some modifications?
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Silver '02 SE with the "wee 'lil" 3100, raised spoiler, custom-made cone intake, dual exhaust catback, u-bend delete

04 GTO Impulse Blue Metallic, LPE intake system, headers, dyno tune from "RPM"

http://photobucket.com/albums/v221/Dobermanjt/GrandPrix/
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#129668 - 12/26/04 02:11 PM Re: U Bend Delete Question
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Registered: 12/24/04
Posts: 45
Loc: edmonton alberta
hey chico I'm new and last weekend canadianGTP told me to join this club because its better than club gp and that there wer some canucks on here and you wer the man for GT moding. so I thought I would ask if you know were I could get some flow master 40s.thanks
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#129669 - 12/26/04 02:56 PM Re: U Bend Delete Question
snowcrash Offline
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Registered: 05/05/03
Posts: 868
Loc: charlotte, nc
hey nad, here is a link to zzp about it!

http://www.zzperformance.com/zzp/info/U_Bend_Replacement.htm
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#129670 - 12/26/04 03:10 PM Re: U Bend Delete Question
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Registered: 11/14/04
Posts: 264
Loc: Cleveland Ohio
black n redgt go to ebay and get the super forty series, the seller is performance peddler and they cost 45$ thats an awesome price
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#129671 - 12/26/04 03:21 PM Re: U Bend Delete Question
blacknredGT Offline
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Registered: 12/24/04
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Loc: edmonton alberta
sweeeeeeeet. thanks man


just went on ebay dont have credit card.
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#129672 - 12/26/04 08:59 PM Re: U Bend Delete Question
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Registered: 11/14/04
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Loc: Cleveland Ohio
here's a quick idea for you then, go to your nearest bank, they all have these credit card gift cards, just put enough money on it to buy the mufflers and then throw it away

its as simple as that
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#129673 - 12/26/04 10:36 PM Re: U Bend Delete Question
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Registered: 02/08/04
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Loc: Gonzales Tx.
Do you have a bank account? if you do sign up for a paypal account you don't need a credit card ,as far as flowmasters go to a local speed shop they can order them for you or you could get magnaflows i believe midas carries them.
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#129674 - 12/27/04 01:31 PM Re: U Bend Delete Question
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Registered: 02/03/04
Posts: 1952
Loc: Mexico City
Hi,

I went to a shop to get a quotation of deleting the U-Bend, but they don't know how to readapt the O2 sensor,, is there any link to a place of "how to" replace de U-bend step by step or something?, i want to print it a take it there so they can follow the specifications, cause when i ask to do that they seem to be surprised cause i want to delete the U-Bend (remember I'm in Mexico City) and no much knowledge about this car.

Alex cheers
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#129675 - 12/27/04 03:01 PM Re: U Bend Delete Question
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Registered: 02/08/04
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Loc: Gonzales Tx.
First of all they will have to weld in a new oxygen sensor bung in the replacement pipe ,simpely cut off the pipe after the cat unbolt at the flange and measure this piece now cut a hole in your straight piece that you will use as a replacement lage enough to weld the bung in next cut off the flange and weld it on the replacement pipe now position the pie so the sensor is off to the side weld the end on to the cat and bolt up the flange and your done I know yhis sounds complicated but its simple .
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#129676 - 12/28/04 08:29 AM Re: U Bend Delete Question
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Alex print this picture and show it to them [img] http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v206/chico1319/wb5001.jpg [/img]
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