as strange as it may seem, I actually like this better than the Aztek (if thats possible)...btw, I posted the chop of the dodge caravan over at DInet and got reply that said "I was thinkin about trading in my wifes minivan, but now that youve come up with a great idea for shedding a couple hundred pounds of sheetmetal I think it might be time to turbo that sucker!"