When I pull my engine

Posted by: Dthreap

When I pull my engine - 03/21/10 11:12 PM

Alight so when I get all the parts im planning to put in I'm thinking I'll pull the engine. I figure that should make installing the cam a lot easier.

Cam
Headers
3.4 Pulley MPS
180 T-Stat
90# Springs & Standard Retainers
New Timing Chain

Should I do anything else while I have the engine pulled?

I might also buy a shift kit from ZZP to maybe help support the tranny since it will pretty much be at its limit.

Posted by: zuulmusic

Re: When I pull my engine - 03/21/10 11:34 PM

Yeah definitely get the shift kit!

I'm thinking the headers will have to be done with the engine in the car.

Sounds like a solid build you have going on. I'll have to check it out sometime.

Posted by: ordonez1307

Re: When I pull my engine - 03/21/10 11:39 PM

Tensioner
A bunch of gaskets including the oil pan.

Posted by: Dthreap

Re: When I pull my engine - 03/22/10 07:44 AM

Alright thanks guys. By tensioner do you mean the assembly with the pulley? And Zul well deff have to meet up

Posted by: 20gtp02

Re: When I pull my engine - 03/22/10 09:38 AM

So this is for the Comp G?
You had the purple decalled gtp right?
Where's all this time and money coming from now to fix up a much nicer car?

Posted by: Dthreap

Re: When I pull my engine - 03/22/10 02:06 PM

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Originally posted by 20gtp02:
So this is for the Comp G?
You had the purple decalled gtp right?
Where's all this time and money coming from now to fix up a much nicer car?

Yea I had the purple gt lol. I have time and money now because I'm working full time now opposed to 2 days a week when I was in high school. Took a year off of school so I can chill and get things in order. So now instead of $90 a week I'm making $300 or more if I decide to pick up more shifts. And the gt was a lost cause so I sold it to a friend for $1k.

Posted by: ChrisGT

Re: When I pull my engine - 03/22/10 03:11 PM

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Originally posted by zuulmusic:
Yeah definitely get the shift kit!

I'm thinking the headers will have to be done with the engine in the car.

Sounds like a solid build you have going on. I'll have to check it out sometime.

Lol why can't you do headers with the motor outside the car?

And by tensioner he means timing chain tensioner.

Grab a cam install kit at least dude! I would advise a full engine gasket kit.

What cam are you going with?

Posted by: Dthreap

Re: When I pull my engine - 03/22/10 04:15 PM

I'm looking at the vs cam off zzp, that's what chico suggested for a DD. And I only have about 58k on the car so idk if that would change any suggestions.

Posted by: ChrisGT

Re: When I pull my engine - 03/22/10 04:20 PM

Why would you do a new timing chain but not do a new tensioner? lol

You should still get a cam install kit. Your going to need new rocker bolts anyway.

Posted by: Dthreap

Re: When I pull my engine - 03/22/10 04:25 PM

Lol I was just throwing it out there :p and where can I order a cam install kit?

Posted by: ChrisGT

Re: When I pull my engine - 03/22/10 04:34 PM

https://www.zzperformance.com/grand_prix/products1.php?id=120&catid=103

Kit choice is up to you. Their are differing opinions on whether you need to get a cam and crank bolt but to be honest why put yourself in the position to worry just replace em. I'd go kit 4.

Posted by: Dthreap

Re: When I pull my engine - 03/22/10 04:37 PM

Alright thanks man.

Posted by: ChrisGT

Re: When I pull my engine - 03/22/10 04:41 PM

Just make sure you choose L32 and ignore option 3 lol. You already know that but just making sure :p

Posted by: ordonez1307

Re: When I pull my engine - 03/22/10 05:44 PM

Another thing, order thrust plate bolts too. Just in case.

Posted by: Dthreap

Re: When I pull my engine - 03/22/10 06:58 PM

What are thrust plate bolts for? Prob a stupid question lol.

Posted by: ChrisGT

Re: When I pull my engine - 03/23/10 02:43 AM

Please tell me your not doing the cam swap by yourself... lol not trying to be an ass but if your trying to do a cam in your car and you don't know where thrust plate bolts go to you really shouldn't be cracking that motor open.

Posted by: Dthreap

Re: When I pull my engine - 03/23/10 07:31 AM

Actually I am Haha. Well my buddies dad will probably be helping me.

Posted by: ChrisGT

Re: When I pull my engine - 03/23/10 10:55 AM

Lmfao all the praise to ya!!! haha good luck man.

Here:
http://www.mccgp.com/upgrades/caminstall/caminstall_new.php

http://www.fullthrottlev6.com/forums/showthread.php?t=2466

Posted by: Dthreap

Re: When I pull my engine - 03/23/10 11:11 AM

Thanks for the info i'll check it after work. I like a good challenge

Posted by: ordonez1307

Re: When I pull my engine - 03/23/10 01:37 PM

lol. I love how the thrust plate is like 2 lines long in the write-up, but took me almost an entire day to do.

Posted by: RooK

Re: When I pull my engine - 03/23/10 02:33 PM

Thrust plate is a round plate that holds the cam in the block. It has two bolts. I honestly can't remember if I replaced mine or not when I installed my cam. I'm thinking I didn't.

Posted by: ordonez1307

Re: When I pull my engine - 03/23/10 04:33 PM

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Originally posted by RooK:
Thrust plate is a round plate that holds the cam in the block. It has two bolts. I honestly can't remember if I replaced mine or not when I installed my cam. I'm thinking I didn't.

It's the bolts that are the problem. They strip out extremely easily because they are torqued down so tight and are a torx bit. The first one generally comes out easily, but the second one can be a PITA. (I had to dremel it out)

Posted by: Dthreap

Re: When I pull my engine - 03/23/10 04:41 PM

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Originally posted by ordonez1307:

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Originally posted by RooK:
[b] Thrust plate is a round plate that holds the cam in the block. It has two bolts. I honestly can't remember if I replaced mine or not when I installed my cam. I'm thinking I didn't.

Well I have a dermel :p

Posted by: ordonez1307

Re: When I pull my engine - 03/23/10 04:43 PM

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Originally posted by Dthreap:

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Originally posted by ordonez1307:
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Well I have a dermel :p [/b]

It's not something that I wanted to do at all, not around the cam/bearings. It all worked out in the end, but it was not a good time.

Posted by: Dthreap

Re: When I pull my engine - 03/23/10 05:50 PM

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Originally posted by ordonez1307:

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Originally posted by Dthreap:
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Originally posted by ordonez1307:
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Originally posted by RooK:
Thrust plate is a round plate that holds the cam in the block. It has two bolts. I honestly can't remember if I replaced mine or not when I installed my cam. I'm thinking I didn't.

Well I have a dermel :p [/b]

It's not something that I wanted to do at all, not around the cam/bearings. It all worked out in the end, but it was not a good time.

Yea I really hope I don't have to deal with that.

Posted by: ChrisGT

Re: When I pull my engine - 03/23/10 05:51 PM

Hope for the best but prepare for the worst.

Posted by: 20gtp02

Re: When I pull my engine - 03/23/10 07:52 PM

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He awakes!!

Posted by: Dthreap

Re: When I pull my engine - 03/23/10 11:05 PM

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Originally posted by ChrisGT:
Hope for the best but prepare for the worst.

Exactly!

Posted by: Chico

Re: When I pull my engine - 03/23/10 11:34 PM

I hope you have some experienced help,I'm not trying to belittle you but there are many small details that can cause you problems later and have seen the results of overlooked things ,I hate to see you ruin a perfectly good engine ,but good luck and ask questions if in doubt I have done at least 6 rebuilds on the 3.8's and pulled at least 12 so any help you need just ask.And I have a set of stainless E-bay headers I could let you have at cost if you want $200 shipped.Chico(pops)

Posted by: Dthreap

Re: When I pull my engine - 03/24/10 01:34 AM

Thanks f0r the 0ffer p0ps but i have ants pacesetters c0mming sh0u1d be here wednesday). And i may be ab1e t0 find s0me0ne but if n0t i p1an 0n taking extra time t0 check 0ver everything twice. I figure the cam insta11ati0n wi11 turn me fr0m a b0y t0 a man! :p

Maybe i'11 just drive the car d0wn t0 texas, im a g00d c00k haha

btw keyb0ard is messed up and d0nt want t0 get 0n the 0ther c0mp 101.

Posted by: RooK

Re: When I pull my engine - 03/24/10 04:32 PM

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Originally posted by 20gtp02:

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He awakes!! [/b]

Huh?! Where?

Posted by: ordonez1307

Re: When I pull my engine - 03/24/10 04:34 PM

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Originally posted by RooK:

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Originally posted by 20gtp02:
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He awakes!! [/b]

Huh?! Where?

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Are you gonna actually hang around for a while this time? Or walk off into the sunset again?

Posted by: RooK

Re: When I pull my engine - 03/24/10 06:57 PM

It's so dashing to walk off into the sunset...

It all depends on what I'm doing in life. I've been so busy with various things, even my GP has been neglected. But I've been visiting the boards a bit lately, I just don't say much.