Why is the battery so tight???

Posted by: bill bradley

Why is the battery so tight??? - 08/16/07 03:14 PM

I tried cahnging the battery on my 2002 Grand Prix Gt and there was no room at all. It took me 15 minutes to figure out how to turn the battery and another 10 to finally squeeze it in.. Why did they make that so difficult????
Posted by: drummerboy1307

Re: Why is the battery so tight??? - 08/16/07 03:31 PM

Brilliant GM engineering :rolleyes:

You should feel lucky that you have an '02... the 97-98's have the washer fluid tank right on top of it!
Posted by: theone2043

Re: Why is the battery so tight??? - 08/16/07 03:42 PM

not mine haha took my 98 out and swaped it for the little neck.. i got a lil bit more room now
Posted by: 20gtp02

Re: Why is the battery so tight??? - 08/16/07 04:10 PM

I am still trucking on the Original 2002 battery, says good for 7 years on the thing!!

(Knock on the Supercharger!)
Posted by: zuulmusic

Re: Why is the battery so tight??? - 08/16/07 04:13 PM

Did you take out the cross brace covering it? I didn't think it was so hard. Oh yeah, some Buicks have the battery under the passenger seat... so don't complain!! haha
Posted by: 20gtp02

Re: Why is the battery so tight??? - 08/16/07 04:25 PM

I rather do the battery then mess with the rear plugs, my hand too big for areas like that!
Posted by: Richard Candelario

Re: Why is the battery so tight??? - 08/16/07 04:33 PM

Yep, GM has a bad habit of placing their batteries in all the wrong places. The HMMWV (Humvee, or the original version of the Hummer H1) has both 12v batteries in a box under the seat that is JUST big enough for the batteries themselves. Never mind the room you need to grab the batteries or space to swing the tools to release the retention straps...

How about the Cobalt that has the battery in with, yes I said WITH the spare tire?

These are the reasons why engineers need to get beaten with a ratchet wrench BEFORE they go to school...(Sorry, Zuul)
Posted by: AustinGTP

Re: Why is the battery so tight??? - 08/16/07 06:33 PM

Remove the cross brace and remove the neck of the washer fluid bottle. It's a job to get it done. I've had to remove mine a couple of times and it sucks, both getting out and trying to get it back in.
Posted by: zuulmusic

Re: Why is the battery so tight??? - 08/16/07 06:47 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by Richard Candelario:

These are the reasons why engineers need to get beaten with a ratchet wrench BEFORE they go to school...(Sorry, Zuul)
haha, I tend to agree though. I like to think theres two kinds of engineers: hands on, and textbook. Unforunately, usually what ultimately makes decisions is cost.
oh, and 'where crap is' I wouldn't consider to be an engineer's problem.
Posted by: Richard Candelario

Re: Why is the battery so tight??? - 08/16/07 08:07 PM

ya know, you're right, it isnt the engineer's problem. They all make too much money to ever work on their own stuff. It really is the technician's problem, cause we gotta fix what the engineers messed up in the first place.
Posted by: Blackarrow98GP

Re: Why is the battery so tight??? - 08/16/07 08:51 PM

Could be worse; at least they didn't hide them behind the inner fenderwell, like on some Chrysler Corp. cars... wink
Posted by: zuulmusic

Re: Why is the battery so tight??? - 08/16/07 10:34 PM

lol
Posted by: RooK

Re: Why is the battery so tight??? - 08/17/07 01:15 AM

Easiest way to get a 78 series battery out of a GP: Remove crossbrace, turn sideways and lift out. Engine bays are getting small to maximize engine space while engines are staying the same size. Battery placement seems to be secondary to other parts.
Posted by: ThunderBat

Re: Why is the battery so tight??? - 08/17/07 03:31 AM

this is one of the reasons I installed an Optima red top...not that I've had to remove it for anything but it has its own dandy carry/lift handle...remove the cross-brace and cables and lift away.

(my wifes Montana was MUCH more fun!) crazy
Posted by: HercMan(Rob)

Re: Why is the battery so tight??? - 08/17/07 04:50 AM

Why the complaints? The battery isn't meant to be pulled out on a daily/monthly basis. If the engineers put everything we need in an easy access spot then our vehicles would be huge.
Posted by: Acefighter

Re: Why is the battery so tight??? - 08/17/07 03:14 PM

I'm not sure how you're supposed to jump start a car with a battery like that. Neither my friend nor I could get the second clamp to stay on. Luckily, he didn't need his truck jumped, he was just trying to see if he could get it on in case his new sub killed his battery. laugh
Posted by: ThunderBat

Re: Why is the battery so tight??? - 08/17/07 06:24 PM

thats why you have the covered post on top of the fuse block for your positive cable...then any ground will work fine.
Posted by: AustinGTP

Re: Why is the battery so tight??? - 08/17/07 07:57 PM

For safety purpose you shouldn't connect jumper cables directly to your battery.
As T-bat said, positive post on fuse box and any ground will work just fine.
Posted by: Acefighter

Re: Why is the battery so tight??? - 08/18/07 03:28 AM

Oh...really? Ok. lol
Posted by: RooK

Re: Why is the battery so tight??? - 08/18/07 09:56 AM

Actually, it's always been recommended that the positive lead goes on the battery and the negative should stay on a ground some distance away. This prevents sparks from igniting the hydrogen gas it releases.... so the battery won't go boom.