ZZP DP

Posted by: D

ZZP DP - 05/22/06 01:20 AM

I want to get the ZZP DP and i want to install it my self, i did my own mufflers but i didnt look any futher to the front of the car and I dont want to sound stupid, but the DP bolts on to what two points?
Posted by: UMfan

Re: ZZP DP - 05/22/06 01:33 AM

If you are getting the one that has a high flow cat, it is a "bolt on" setup. It bolts on to the rear manifold (2 bolts) and to a flange after the cat (2 bolts).

If you do it yourself...definitely soak them in a something that will break rust like PB Blaster. Soak them many times as much as you can. I did not do this ahead of time, and as a result, one of my bolts broke and crimpton had to use a torch to extract it.
Posted by: D

Re: ZZP DP - 05/22/06 05:40 AM

And if I get te once without the Cat it bolts up to the manifold and to were, what i'm trying to ask is does the DP eliminate the resinator. I'm thinking im going to get it done professinally so they can do the u-bend to for me.
Posted by: HercMan(Rob)

Re: ZZP DP - 05/22/06 07:02 AM

The DP wether with cat or without will have the Ubend eliminated already.
Posted by: AustinGTP

Re: ZZP DP - 05/22/06 08:22 AM

If you're getting just the D/P itself and plan on using your original cat, you will need to have the D/P welded to your original cat.
Posted by: UMfan

Re: ZZP DP - 05/22/06 10:24 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by HercMan:
The DP wether with cat or without will have the Ubend eliminated already.
Herc, I don't think that is true. If you get a DP without a cat, you need to weld it to the front side of the cat. The Ubend is on the other side of the cat. So, you'd still need to do the ubend delete. That is why I think it's more cost effective to get the DP with the ubend delete and high flow cat. No welding and it's a little cheaper in the long run.
Posted by: crimpton

Re: ZZP DP - 05/22/06 10:26 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by D:
what i'm trying to ask is does the DP eliminate the resinator.
No DP eliminates the resonator. You will have to cut the resonator out and weld a straight piece of pipe in it's place.

Pending on where you buy it from as to whether it's bolt in or not. Usually if it's just a bolt in application they tell you up front.
You can tell by the pictures as to what's involved to installing it.
Posted by: UMfan

Re: ZZP DP - 05/22/06 10:36 AM

Here are some photos so you can see.

DP with no cat (welding required(:
http://www.jimmycracing.com/images/Img6.jpg

DP with high flow cat and Ubend delete (bolt up):
http://www.jimmycracing.com/Car/v2.5small.JPG

PS-Looks like JimmyC went to solid stainless as well now to match zzp. Grrr...I should have waited a couple weeks!
Posted by: zuulmusic

Re: ZZP DP - 05/22/06 11:00 AM

It can go both ways... depends what company.
For example, ohio auto worx:
http://www.ohioautoworx.com/product_info.php?products_id=29&osCsid=07b0a5d85117690a42f1b48b901294aa
Posted by: framos242

Re: ZZP DP - 05/22/06 11:22 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by UMfan:
PS-Looks like JimmyC went to solid stainless as well now to match zzp. Grrr...I should have waited a couple weeks!
When did you get yours? Reason being is that he was shipped stainless and didn't even know. lol
Posted by: UMfan

Re: ZZP DP - 05/22/06 11:28 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by zuulmusic:
It can go both ways... depends what company.
For example, ohio auto worx:
http://www.ohioautoworx.com/product_info.php?products_id=29&osCsid=07b0a5d85117690a42f1b48b901294aa
I am not sure what you are trying to say. That link is for a racing DP. That is a DP, a straight pipe, and a Ubend delete. There is no cat in that setup.
Posted by: UMfan

Re: ZZP DP - 05/22/06 11:29 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by framos242:
Quote:
Originally posted by UMfan:
[b] PS-Looks like JimmyC went to solid stainless as well now to match zzp. Grrr...I should have waited a couple weeks!
When did you get yours? Reason being is that he was shipped stainless and didn't even know. lol [/b]
That's funny. No, I'm sure mine is not stainless. I bought the one he was selling on clubgp. It was slightly used (20 miles) but he sold it to me for $200 shipped so I jumped on it.
Posted by: D

Re: ZZP DP - 05/22/06 01:50 PM

So if I get this ZZP DP all I will need is the O2 sensor hook up. And I will alittle confused do i need a ubend setup too or does it come on the DP aready?
Posted by: UMfan

Re: ZZP DP - 05/22/06 02:03 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by D:
So if I get this ZZP DP all I will need is the O2 sensor hook up. And I will alittle confused do i need a ubend setup too or does it come on the DP aready?
For the one you linked to, you have two options there;

The "shorty" will weld to your cat. You don't even need to mess with your O2 sensor. However, you will still have the u-bend and you will need to pay someone to remove the u-bend (and then mess with the O2 sensor) if you really want to take full advantage of this.

The other option is a race pipe that is bolt on, but there is no cat involved...just a straight pipe which takes the place of your old cat. This has a bung for the O2 sensor, but you will need to buy an O2 simulator because it will throw a code since there is no cat. And, in some places with strict emissions it's illegal to run without a cat.
Posted by: framos242

Re: ZZP DP - 05/22/06 02:14 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by UMfan:
That's funny. No, I'm sure mine is not stainless. I bought the one he was selling on clubgp. It was slightly used (20 miles) but he sold it to me for $200 shipped so I jumped on it. [/QB]
That's right. Forgot about that.
Posted by: zuulmusic

Re: ZZP DP - 05/22/06 02:24 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by UMfan:
Quote:
Originally posted by zuulmusic:
[b] It can go both ways... depends what company.
For example, ohio auto worx:
http://www.ohioautoworx.com/product_info.php?products_id=29&osCsid=07b0a5d85117690a42f1b48b901294aa
I am not sure what you are trying to say. That link is for a racing DP. That is a DP, a straight pipe, and a Ubend delete. There is no cat in that setup. [/b]
oh it was in response to when you said
Quote:
If you get a DP without a cat, you need to weld it to the front side of the cat. The Ubend is on the other side of the cat. So, you'd still need to do the ubend delete.
just wanted to clear up that you dont necessarily need the ubend delete with a non-cat'd, and theyre available both ways.
Posted by: HercMan(Rob)

Re: ZZP DP - 05/22/06 02:37 PM

My bad I didn't realize ZZP made a shorty. I was thinking of the offroad one.