They're Here!

Worth the wait for the big pictures!

Very cool - a dealer told me they shipped in October and would be here soon (this was about a week ago). Can't wait to see one on the street or at the track. Hopefully I'll be in my Formula when I do....

We just bought a GTP Comp-G yesterday and the dealer said they expected to have them next week. I wanted to wait for a GTO, but the wife want's a 4 door...

Should have replaced the wife.

My local Pontiac dealer finally got an 04 GTO and I stopped by to check it out. The car is a 6 speed yellowjacket with black interior. Though many dont like the rental car styling and wish it was more retro, I still like it and am glad they built it. A 6 speed RWD V8 anything would work for me though. I think the car looks better in person than in the pictures etc , but then again I like the holden Monaro too. Fit and finish were excellent. No weird gaps, no mistakes, brilliant paint, just 100% effort all around.

The interior however is incredible. You will never know you are in a GM vehicle. The seats are the most comfortable and supportive seats I have ever sat in, and the leather isnt anywhere near the CRAP that GM currently uses or used to put in their vehicles. Even the dash, switchgear, shifter are lightyears ahead of where the F-body and the rest of GM cars are/were. IMO its nicer than any current BMW Ive been in and its a lot more comfy than the M5 or M3. Not as flashy maybe but the driving position (for me) and seat comfort alone are worth buying the car for no matter what it looks like. Im sold. If it gets some retro tweaks and 405hp next year im going to have to find a way to get one

If that car is any indication of the quality and workmanship that might be coming in 05/06, GM will be over 30% marketshare in no time.

Jeff

Keep a lookout Jeff, supposedly there is a Judge version coming out next year. Would be nice to see the ZO6 engine in it.

yep, thats the story Ive heard.

ive also heard some rumblings about a Chevelle SS coming from Chevy, though no info on whether it will be an offshoot of the Monaro, another holden vehicle (maybe commodore SS) or a completely new chevy made here. Talk was 400+ hp. Maybe that will get an LS-2 once the new Z06 comes out in 06

Jeff

Was at Portland auto show. Apparently, only one dealership in metro Portland has a GTO, and they are asking TEN THOUSAND over MSRP!! When I was in California on business the other day, tons of dealerships had them, and I think most of them were asking MSRP. I don't know what the hell is wrong with the Portland dealerships.

Thats the problem with G.M. dealers. Mark up! Thats what killed the ZR1. I've heard there doing it on the LS-1 powered Caddy's too. I hope they don't kill these cars with there greed!

i`m sorry guys but I still think that it looks like a cavalier on stroids,,,maybe a body kit or something to give it personality or something... maybe I have to see it in person to give the last veredit.

I think it looks alright from the direct side...but NO OTHER angle...final verdict = Scale of 1-10 out of street style = 6

Umm...that was my friend that jumped on my computer...(He owns a '00 Stang) Anyway...I like the GTO's appearance, but I think that it could look a little more aggressive...maybe 18" rims like the RX8, the front looks pretty good, but somethings gotta happen with the rear end...some kind of styling...needs better detailing...Also, I think there should definitely be some kind version that has dual exhaust coming out BOTH sides, not just the drivers side...And the ENGINE! If you didn't know that the LS1's throttle body was in the front, it is...and GM should've came up with something along the lines of the Corvette and had the Air Intake come from the front fascia...Instead, the GTO's source of air supply come from the same place as the 3800's...behind the drivers side headlight! Why design a 90 degree rubber ducting to come all the way from the headlight to the FRONT of the engine...*sigh* You guys should really read this months issue of MotorTrend...they compar the $35K GTO to the $70K Mercedes CLK55 AMG. And if 2 GTO's are worth as much as one Mercedes quality wise...the article kind of downgrades a LOT of points with the GTO...oh well

I think the autocross GTO that GM showed at the 03 SEMA show is what they should have done to the car in the first place. (High Perf Pontiac Mag, pgs 61-63). More aggressive front and rear treatmen, 18" rims, and splits the exhaust into duals on each side. Nicer package. BUT Im happy that the car even exists. personally I cant understand how people say it looks like a big cavalier when IMO it looks almost like a carbon copy of my 00 GTP Coupe. Grille and all. Oh well. When you are driving it, you dont see what it looks like from the outside, you just have fun fun ffun.

I thought the MT article actually did the GTO justice. It showed that you can have (as the article said) 85-90% of the AMG benz performance for less than 1/2 the price. Does it get any better? Remember its spring....

AMG Benz performance out of a stock GTO? Which AMG Benz are we talking about? I saw an AMG Benz a couple weeks ago turn a 12.2 in the 1/4 mile without even tryin' hard. I asked the guy about what was done to the car and he said that it was all AMG... he hadn't messed with it a bit. Pretty car too!

Marc

I love those AMG's. They always look so bad ass with the wide rear tires they throw on.

CLK55 AMG 1/4 13.14@108.07mph

GTO Auto 1/4 13.85@101.4mph

They said 85-90%

besides, Id spend $46,000 less to go 7 tenths slower and be happy.

Hey hey fellas, I didn't say I wouldn't take the GTO over the Benz either...Actually, if I had $70K on a car, I know EXACTLY what I would do. I'd buy the GTO, spend $10K on mods, then buy a daily driver for $25K because I know that the GTO will only get about 14-15 mpg after I'm done with it Don't get me wrong, I love the car and would trade it in without hesitation for my GTP that I put some sweat into, pssht I'd even pay about 10K with the trade in...but right now, not much more than that...Go Pontiac!

Ok lets not get in to this vs that vs this... I mean come on -- My bud has a RWD Chevette that runs low 8s and is Street legal. The car was $38 and the mods less than $10K with the motor -- so you wanna talk about a sleeper!

Anyway yes the GTO is badass... my dealer is getting 10! They say it is based on "Last" year Trans-Am sales - and being I am in a RED-NECK part of town they sold a lot of TAs

They already sold the Black and Blue one and have a Yellow one on the floor. They are selling the car for MSRP no less -- no more... punks would not give me GMS or I would have one now

Are the GTO's even for sale yet? I've yet to see one on the roads.

The Deal here has sold 2. And Have a 3rd on their showroom floor. He said they are slow to come in and semi-slow to sell --

I SAID I GUESS SO YOU ARE SELLING THEM $5000 OVER STICKER! an over-sized Cavalier for $38K -no way

Come on guys to pay more for a car than it will ever be worth is kinda silly. Expecially since next year they will be everywhere.

Now the C6 vette with the all aliminum 6L may be a nice thing to have first year but the H#$% I am paying more than MSRP for it.

It was the AMG CLK55 that was in the MT article

I think the rear end looks almost like a riced out ford escort! The front end is similiar to the 04 grand prix

OOOPs I meant 2000 GP with different headlights. Im surprised that they only do a 13.53 1/4 mile. Many GTP's are doing more than that!

Where is this thread going

Hey, local dealer here in MD is on GTO #3. Bahamma blue. Doesnt look as bad as the brochure makes it out to be but I saw it being TEST DRIVEN on Saturday. THey didnt allow it with the first two they had. Guess either you need to be very serious or they are getting soft as they have 2 more inbound.

Where the heck are you in MD! I live in MD! Linthicum to be exact. And "my" dealer Swanson on Ritchie Hwy is also on their 3rd. They claim they are getting 10. Based on the last year Trans AM sales.