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#100368 - 11/06/08 07:41 PM How are the 2002s holding up??
Pontiac Dude Offline
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Well after 52,000 miles on my Pontiac Grand Prix
Gt reg.3800. Ive had 2 problems a needed a resistor replace on the heater fan. I also needed
a window switch replaced on the passenger side.
These must be GM weak links, faulty power windows
and heating/ air fan problems. How are your
2002s holding up? Ive probably spend 250.00
getting these things fixed. I shouldnt have these
problems on a 6 year old car with 50k miles.
How come the Honda Accords dont have these problems?
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#100369 - 11/06/08 07:47 PM Re: How are the 2002s holding up??
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lol ill take a few problems on my gp then drive a honda anyday that has no problems


I HATE IMPORTS!!!
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#100370 - 11/06/08 07:49 PM Re: How are the 2002s holding up??
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cant say much about the 02 GT. I can, however, talk about my 2000 GT. At 150,xxx miles, my car couldnt be more solid. I do have a window issue, though. My driver's window will not roll down when ambient is warm, but will work just fine when ambient drops to below 85*.

Why do Accords not have these issues? I dunno. Maybe becuase their owners treat those cars with the delicateness that they require? I couldnt answer that. I do know one thing for sure: you'd know I was in hard times when I had to resort to buying an import. Those things are simply not the tanks that American cars tend to be.
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#100371 - 11/06/08 07:55 PM Re: How are the 2002s holding up??
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It's all part of GM's plan to re-enact "Christine" on a large scale. The door locks were supposed to break in the locked position as well. I guess they messed that one up. Don't even joke about driving a Honda. Not out loud anyway. Your GP is programmed to smack you with the airbag.
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#100372 - 11/06/08 07:57 PM Re: How are the 2002s holding up??
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My 02 GTP never gave me one problem. Except when i did excesive mods and tunning was off a little. BUT all stock never had a single problem. but then again only had 23k on the clock when i sold it.
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#100373 - 11/06/08 08:27 PM Re: How are the 2002s holding up??
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2 small problems... and your complaining?
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#100374 - 11/06/08 08:45 PM Re: How are the 2002s holding up??
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I have owned 3 GT's now on 1 had the window switch issue, neither had the heater fan issue.

I have also owned several hondas. I am really not sure why people bash them on here. they do just what they are supposed to do, provide economy city and highway, and reliability. (maybe they get a bad rep from getting riced out... mine were all stock)

Every car has its weak points, and there is not a car on the road that will NEVER be problem-less. (some more problems than others of course)

I also currently own a 99 4runner, I can't give you 1 complaint about it.

if you hate imports just because they are "imports" then its like hating a mustang because its a "ford" .

many auto makers have great cars out foreign and domestic.

just my 2 cents, all I had was a nickel, anyone have 3 cents on them?
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#100375 - 11/06/08 08:49 PM Re: How are the 2002s holding up??
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Quote:
Originally posted by ordonez1307:
2 small problems... and your complaining?
hahahahaha X2
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#100376 - 11/06/08 08:52 PM Re: How are the 2002s holding up??
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Originally posted by jaybur:
I have owned 3 GT's now on 1 had the window switch issue, neither had the heater fan issue.

I have also owned several hondas. I am really not sure why people bash them on here. they do just what they are supposed to do, provide economy city and highway, and reliability. (maybe they get a bad rep from getting riced out... mine were all stock)

Every car has its weak points, and there is not a car on the road that will NEVER be problem-less. (some more problems than others of course)

I also currently own a 99 4runner, I can't give you 1 complaint about it.

if you hate imports just because they are "imports" then its like hating a mustang because its a "ford" .

many auto makers have great cars out foreign and domestic.

just my 2 cents, all I had was a nickel, anyone have 3 cents on them?
we dont bash STOCK honda's, only the riced out junk like you said
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#100377 - 11/06/08 09:29 PM Re: How are the 2002s holding up??
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I've had a fair amount of problems with my 2001 GTP. I bought the car with 42,000 miles on the clock from the original owner. Shortly after I bought it, the cruise control stopped working. I never fixed it because I hardly use CC. Then the heater resistor broke, followed by the heated seat. Since then I have replaced both front wheel bearings (the driver's side one TWICE, and both outter tie rods. Earlier this year I hit a HUGE pot hole at a fast speed and snapped my front driver side axle, destroying both control arm bushings. The transmission was also leaking at the axle seal. And, most recently my stock supercharger failed on me. It started making a loud noise while driving which I originally thought was the coupler. Turns out it was the bearings in the blower itself... Other than that my car has been fine... 65K on the clock... Motor has always run perfect, car handles well, brakes are great, and transmission has been fine. And most importantly.. My A/C blows ice cold wink
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#100378 - 11/06/08 10:01 PM Re: How are the 2002s holding up??
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I like my Pontiac its just a little annoying to
have problems at 50k miles.
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#100379 - 11/06/08 10:42 PM Re: How are the 2002s holding up??
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$250 is nothing, wtf...
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#100380 - 11/06/08 10:52 PM Re: How are the 2002s holding up??
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My 2002 gp has 182,000 miles and I've only had to replace the cat, and the LIM gasket and radiator. I've own the car since december of 2004 and thats the only problems I've had. The total amount was 700-800 dollars, the cat was replaced under warranty by the dealership and blower motor resistor was 21 dollars at autozone and replace that myself.

I was never into hondas or toyotas just because I wanted something different, thats all I see is hondas and toyotas.

250 dollars is nothing really.
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#100381 - 11/06/08 11:36 PM Re: How are the 2002s holding up??
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Quote:
Originally posted by Pontiac Dude:

How come the Honda Accords dont have these problems?
Roflmfao lol lol lol I love that you said that. Now if you like I could go into a whole rant explaining and comparing 6 year old Honda's vs 6 year old Pontiac's, specifically Grand Prix's. However I would rather not. I guess I am expecting to much of certain car owners to do any sort of research. Im guessing you said your previous statement because you are comparing your Grand Prix to Honda's that either you have or do own, or that someone else you know owns. If you are just making that statement because of what you believe to be true well then that is just plain ignorance. You can't just pick a car company and say "why doesn't this happen to them" because I hate to burst your "Honduh" bubble but guess what it does. Now I'm not going say Grand Prix's are bullet proof because they have some flaws but they do not all have to do with design and the company. Common wear and tear or depending on you location, usage, and just a part dieing are not reasons to count out the car and whine about it.
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#100382 - 11/06/08 11:53 PM Re: How are the 2002s holding up??
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Quote:
Originally posted by ChrisGT:
Quote:
Originally posted by Pontiac Dude:
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How come the Honda Accords dont have these problems?
Roflmfao lol lol lol I love that you said that. Now if you like I could go into a whole rant explaining and comparing 6 year old Honda's vs 6 year old Pontiac's, specifically Grand Prix's. However I would rather not. I guess I am expecting to much of certain car owners to do any sort of research. Im guessing you said your previous statement because you are comparing your Grand Prix to Honda's that either you have or do own, or that someone else you know owns. If you are just making that statement because of what you believe to be true well then that is just plain ignorance. You can't just pick a car company and say that why doesn't this happen to them because guess what I hate to burst your "Honduh" bubble but guess what it does. Now I'm not going say Grand Prix's are bullet proof because they have some flaws but they do not all have to do with design and the company. Common wear and tear or depending on you location, usage, and just a part dieing are not reasons to count out the car and whine about it. [/b]
and................ wait for it...........


OWNED!!!!!!!!!!


JK bro but i have a 2002 and it has had only one prob that was the CARS fault not mine hahaha and it that the car is a 4 door hahaha

and my grandfather has a 1996 gtp that has no shit 302,000 miles on it and only had to fix the power steering on it other than regular talking care of it stuff. and he dosent drive like an old man he used to drag when he was a kid and he drives more crazy than i do hahaha
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#100383 - 11/07/08 07:11 AM Re: How are the 2002s holding up??
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Quote:
Originally posted by Pontiac Dude:

How come the Honda Accords dont have these problems?
Because they are quite ugly and utilitarian.


I don't know what GM did with the windows cause my 98 Silverado hasn't had one window problem.

My 98 GTP has had very little to complain about with 113k. Window, hubs, and other then normal wear items that's it.
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#100384 - 11/07/08 09:25 AM Re: How are the 2002s holding up??
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Quote:
Originally posted by jaybur:
if you hate imports just because they are "imports" then its like hating a mustang because its a "ford" .
but I do hate mustangs just because they are fords :p

Seriously though those two things are extremely minor compared to a laundry list of possible things that could go wrong at 50k. GP's are notorious for having poor window motors/switches and they have the same reputation with the heating and cooling switches/motors/resistors. Every car is not made equally. Its a small price to pay to drive a car as sexy as the grand prix is cheers
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#100385 - 11/07/08 10:23 AM Re: How are the 2002s holding up??
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#100386 - 11/07/08 12:10 PM Re: How are the 2002s holding up??
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lol. you're complaining about a resistor and a switch? those are barely considered repairs.

DIY cost:
resistor $17
switch $10 used
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#100387 - 11/07/08 12:18 PM Re: How are the 2002s holding up??
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The only issue I have had are my tie rods. The roads suck up north. Anyways to get 1 tie rod put in it would have been $260... $89 for the part and the rest for labor for 1 tie rod install. Passenger went first then the driver side 6 months later. Bought each for $30 and put em in saving $460.
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#100388 - 11/07/08 12:46 PM Re: How are the 2002s holding up??
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Tie rods are normal wear items. And is highly recommended to be replaced in pairs. $260 to install one tie rod end? What a rip off.
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#100389 - 11/07/08 12:46 PM Re: How are the 2002s holding up??
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Quote:
Originally posted by ChrisGT:
The only issue I have had are my tie rods. The roads suck up north. Anyways to get 1 tie rod put in it would have been $260... $89 for the part and the rest for labor for 1 tie rod install. Passenger went first then the driver side 6 months later. Bought each for $30 and put em in saving $460.
The Rods or the Ends?
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#100390 - 11/07/08 02:11 PM Re: How are the 2002s holding up??
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My 2002 GT coupe has 88k on it, bought it at 60k

Things I have HAD to replace:

Passenger wheel bearing
Ignition Switch
Passenger window switch
Blower resistor
Upper/lower intake gaskets (warrentied before the actual recall)
Passenger outer Tie Rod end

Total cost to me was about $300.00 (warrenty deductibles)


Things I have elected to replace on my own:

I am sooo not going there, would be easier to list what I haven't replaced yet.
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#100391 - 11/07/08 02:25 PM Re: How are the 2002s holding up??
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it makes me sad to hear that most of your gps are complaint free. dont get me wrong here i love my gp with a passion(maybe too much) but iv had sooo many problems with it. tranny, wheel bearings, tie rods, sway bars, waterpumps, control arms, blower motor, supercharger, egr, suspension...and i could keep going, so dont be upset with your windows and blower motor, i wish that was all that was wrong with my car
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#100392 - 11/07/08 03:28 PM Re: How are the 2002s holding up??
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Quote:
Originally posted by 4rsssfed_grandprix98:
Quote:
Originally posted by ChrisGT:
[b] The only issue I have had are my tie rods. The roads suck up north. Anyways to get 1 tie rod put in it would have been $260... $89 for the part and the rest for labor for 1 tie rod install. Passenger went first then the driver side 6 months later. Bought each for $30 and put em in saving $460.
The Rods or the Ends? [/b]
I know its common wear Herc lol, however I didn't know it was recommended to do both thank you for that.

Now to answer your question 4rsssfed.
The actual rods, friend had an extra pair a customer didn't come in for them so he sold em mad cheap to me, he owed me anyways haha. He gets discounts on suspension stuff through his uncle shop too.
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#100393 - 11/07/08 03:48 PM Re: How are the 2002s holding up??
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Quote:
Originally posted by ChrisGT:
Quote:
Originally posted by 4rsssfed_grandprix98:
[b]
Quote:
Originally posted by ChrisGT:
[b] The only issue I have had are my tie rods. The roads suck up north. Anyways to get 1 tie rod put in it would have been $260... $89 for the part and the rest for labor for 1 tie rod install. Passenger went first then the driver side 6 months later. Bought each for $30 and put em in saving $460.
The Rods or the Ends? [/b]
I know its common wear Herc lol, however I didn't know it was recommended to do both thank you for that.

Now to answer your question 4rsssfed.
The actual rods, friend had an extra pair a customer didn't come in for them so he sold em mad cheap to me, he owed me anyways haha. He gets discounts on suspension stuff through his uncle shop too. [/b]
Hmmm, I'm curious what was wrong with the tie rods that you had to replace them... bent?
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#100394 - 11/07/08 04:16 PM Re: How are the 2002s holding up??
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Yea when I went to get my car aligned they couldn't. They said my tie rod was bent sure enough it was. The sleeve was fine but the end near the bolt attaching to the tire was bent on the drivers side, I bought both tie rods but only replaced that one, but then the passenger side was acting up I put it on jack stands and it had too much play so I replaced that one after. The roads and the winters ugh.
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#100395 - 11/07/08 04:33 PM Re: How are the 2002s holding up??
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Originally posted by ChrisGT:
Yea when I went to get my car aligned they couldn't. They said my tie rod was bent sure enough it was. The sleeve was fine but the end near the bolt attaching to the tire was bent on the drivers side, I bought both tie rods but only replaced that one, but then the passenger side was acting up I put it on jack stands and it had too much play so I replaced that one after. The roads and the winters ugh.
Holy potholes batman!!!!!!! eek
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#100396 - 11/07/08 04:44 PM Re: How are the 2002s holding up??
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Not even I avoid potholes just all the "patchs" and "repairs". I go slow over speed bumps and stuff I don't beat it up its just how bad they are. I can tell you right now why it bent I just remembered when this old lady came into my lane of traffic there was a car in front of me so I couldn't speed up and If I braked off she would of hit me I had to ramp up on that little 2" lip on the side shredded a half inch deep 1 inch tall and 5 inch wide cut out of my sidewall. Luckily I had a road hazard warranty on the tires so I replaced it for $13 lol. Little did I think to even check my tie rod and suspension I was glad she didn't hit me. Wow I had totally forgotten about that ha.
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