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#101208 - 05/12/07 11:34 AM 03 wreck (Picture warning)
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ok guys you may all know BLEWGTP on this site, hes my bro and horribly enough last night the car was in an accident. here are some pictures, could you guys guesstimate the cost to the best of everyones knowledge here? thanks guys







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#101209 - 05/12/07 11:36 AM Re: 03 wreck (Picture warning)
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Looks totalled to me...

Was he ok? That looks pretty bad.
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#101210 - 05/12/07 11:37 AM Re: 03 wreck (Picture warning)
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he is ok i believe for now....
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#101211 - 05/12/07 12:27 PM Re: 03 wreck (Picture warning)
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My mom had damage like that to her ford explorer a few years ago. Was like $9500 to fix it, $4500 just in labor. They usually total it if the fram is bent. I see a big gash, I actually have a big gash on mine from a block on the highway. I'd say the bill is going to be above $5,000 at least.
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#101212 - 05/12/07 12:47 PM Re: 03 wreck (Picture warning)
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ouch. what did he hit?
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#101213 - 05/12/07 12:49 PM Re: 03 wreck (Picture warning)
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did the airbags go off ... if so then its totaled ... ... but it is looken close
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#101214 - 05/12/07 12:55 PM Re: 03 wreck (Picture warning)
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Judging from the pic of the engine compartment I'd say the bags went off.

Looks like he hit a post or something.
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#101215 - 05/12/07 01:09 PM Re: 03 wreck (Picture warning)
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Jon,
Glad to hear your brother is ok. The last time I saw damage like that, my girlfriend struck a telephone pole with an '85 Monte Carlo. She was not injured, and of course neither was the telephone pole... wink
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#101216 - 05/12/07 01:50 PM Re: 03 wreck (Picture warning)
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Looks like its totaled to me too.... Good thing he is ok tho!
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#101217 - 05/12/07 03:32 PM Re: 03 wreck (Picture warning)
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hey its me...i fell asleep at the wheel at 3:00 in the morning last night and ran into a fire hydrant around 30 mph...the only thing that got messed up was the gtp and the hydrant...everyone is ok, thankfully the airbags didnt go off, and i WAS wearing a seat belt...i got a ticket for wreckless driving, and im out of a ride for now...ill keep everyone in touch with whats going on...if they total it ill be selling my pcm,exhaust, and intake..but ill let you all know...
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#101218 - 05/12/07 03:45 PM Re: 03 wreck (Picture warning)
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I was working at this house two weeks ago, and a lady in a white grand am during the day creamed a hydrant. She hit like the passenger right side. Bumper, side panel, stuff just hanging around, and she got out, looked at it, spoke to some roofers, and then she left. Cops showed up 10 minutes later.
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#101219 - 05/12/07 04:41 PM Re: 03 wreck (Picture warning)
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Thank God you are ok.

Are you thinking about parting it out or just junking it?
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#101220 - 05/12/07 06:56 PM Re: 03 wreck (Picture warning)
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Dude, um, if you hit the hydrant at 30, those bags are SUPPOSED to pop. If its at all possible, see if those bags were disabled before the crash. I agree, looks like the ride is totaled. Thanks for coming back on and letting us all know you're ok. Heres hopin she can get back on the road.
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#101221 - 05/12/07 10:30 PM Re: 03 wreck (Picture warning)
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thanks guys...im pretty ok, but even with the seatbelt i hit my chest on the wheel and my head hit the window...ill live, but the destiny of the gtp is unknown right now..i have full coverage, so if its too bad, the insurance will cover blue book, which probly isnt even close to what she was worth...still looked BRAND new! but, im just tryin to get through it....its been sooooo hard to even look at her...ill let you know if shes totaled or not and whats gonna happen
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#101222 - 05/12/07 10:40 PM Re: 03 wreck (Picture warning)
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thank god for full coverage.... i had that on my jeep when i rolled it ... i made money on it 1 because it was in such good of shape like no rust and good mechanical 2 then i parted it out and made money that way ... because i bought it back from the insurance company for 800 ... so chances are it is totaled ... get it apprased and see if the insurance company will pay for that price. otherwise buy it back from the insurance company and eather part it out or fix it up
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#101223 - 05/13/07 12:47 AM Re: 03 wreck (Picture warning)
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You hit the wheel and window because your body was fully asleep and your reaction wasn't as fast as 30 mph to a hault. Glad you are alive to talk about it.
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#101224 - 05/13/07 12:58 AM Re: 03 wreck (Picture warning)
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Wow that sucks. Car looks totalled to me. We'll see though, keep us updated. Sorry to hear about this.
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#101225 - 05/13/07 03:45 AM Re: 03 wreck (Picture warning)
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Lets all keep our hopes high, so far we have the blessing that dan is alright and that the airbags didnt go off, wait....that shouldnt be a sentence. why the @#$% didnt the airbags go off. Can we please have a knowledgable person explain this to us because its slightly confusing. The only thing i can think of is that since it wasnt a "halt" crash....(aka running flat into a cement wall) as opposed to the resulting "roll crash" (hitting an object capable of moving or that does move, aka the fire hydrent)....looking at the car myself, i just want to stop driving my car. dan,my bud sold me my car and is the sole and only reason why I am typing here today. It was sheer randomness that I got the GT I have now. I knew nothing about GP's if it wasnt for him, this really is a let down for the GP community....I can't drive places without that car, its what makes me appreciate mine. that car cant be totaled.
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#101226 - 05/13/07 03:53 AM Re: 03 wreck (Picture warning)
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When I put my car in the ditch, the front of it slammed into a mound of hard dirt. Didn't do as much damage as blewgtp had, mainly because it was more spread out, but my airbags didn't go off either. Good thing for my wallet, but kinda worrying.
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#101227 - 05/13/07 07:49 AM Re: 03 wreck (Picture warning)
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That will be a tough call on writing it off ,if the frame is'nt bent too much it may be salvagable since it's an 03 ,sorry about the car but glad your OK as far as air bags it looks like they should have gone off.Chico.
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#101228 - 05/13/07 05:59 PM Re: 03 wreck (Picture warning)
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It looks close to me...the frame doesn't appear to be damaged to me. Plus it's an 03 so that would help with value of it.

I remembering something from a driver's ed speaker...for some reason I'm thinking up to 35mph into a mostly solid object would cause them to go off. Since he was going 30, he may have just been under the limit.
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#101229 - 05/13/07 07:43 PM Re: 03 wreck (Picture warning)
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The airbags didn;t go off b/c he wasn't goping fast enough, you woul dhave to be moving 35+ for them to go off. Either way with the front end bent like that they have to chagne out the airbag system anyway b/c moving the car around with the senors they way there are set, thr airbags could go off at anytime. So I wouldn't key the car at all. Also did you tell the insurance company that you fell asleep at the wheel and thats why you hit the hydtant. I would have said s deer poped out or any BS axcuse. If yout ell them you fell asleep they will kill you with the insuracne coverage next quarter.
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#101230 - 05/13/07 11:14 PM Re: 03 wreck (Picture warning)
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its hard to tell them you hit a deer because you are suposto hit the deer, i had this problem because i was driving a friends car one night and it was foggy and suddenly there was 5 cows in the middle of the road and i swerved to miss them but i couldnt avoid them i nicked 2 of them and the car went into the ditch. and the insurance company tryed to tell me that cows were like deer and that they can be in the middle of the road and all of that b.s. but they kept saying that you are not suposto swerve for the deer .... idk what you could tell them
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#101231 - 05/13/07 11:42 PM Re: 03 wreck (Picture warning)
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IIRC, there are two sensors on/in the front bumper of a GP, approx 1/4th in from each side. That's what they told me when my GP got wrecked and mine didn't go off. However, there is an "override switch" something about if the impact is great enough, it will set them off, unless the seatbelt isn't buckled. in my wreck, the pass. side bag should have gone off, but since I was the only one in the car, it didn't and it saved me a bunch of money. (blew up the SIR coil though, so I had to get that fixed) if they do fix it and when you get it back, your SW controls don't work, and the air bag lite is on, have them replace the SIR coil and you should be good to go
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#101232 - 05/14/07 02:37 AM Re: 03 wreck (Picture warning)
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Quote:
Originally posted by D:
The airbags didn;t go off b/c he wasn't goping fast enough, you woul dhave to be moving 35+ for them to go off.
My theory for why mine didn't go off is my right front tire took an impact on the drain I went over, and then I hit the mound of packed dirt. I was going fast enough to set off my airbags when I lost traction most likely, but when my tire hit, it slowed me down enough so that the main impact wasn't very bad.

Maybe I should have given that tire a proper burial...lol
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#101233 - 05/14/07 12:36 PM Re: 03 wreck (Picture warning)
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That sucks man. When I got in my accident, my airbags went off. I didn't even realize they went off until I had time to look around and figure out what the smell was. They did save my life though because I'm sure I would have hit the wheel or the windshield if I didn't have airbags. Well, it's good that you are in one piece.
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#101234 - 05/14/07 07:21 PM Re: 03 wreck (Picture warning)
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How close are you gusyt o the steering wheel when you drive? I have the seat all the way back, and ther is no wa y to hit the wheel unless your not wearing your belt. YOu would have to be close to hit the steering wheel and wearing you seat belt.
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#101235 - 05/14/07 07:40 PM Re: 03 wreck (Picture warning)
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I've got like two feet of chest space at least from the wheel!
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#101236 - 05/14/07 09:19 PM Re: 03 wreck (Picture warning)
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i had that X 10 and it was on 4500 total parts and labor but i did it for cheaper by buying a front clip and having a local school workshop fix it it costed me 3k total 2500 for clip and lik 500 for labor i still have a brand new front bumper and lightly used fender i could sell to u if u want it
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#101237 - 05/14/07 10:51 PM Re: 03 wreck (Picture warning)
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There not going to total it because its a 2003, I had a real bad accident and cost me 4500 dollars from the insurance and at the time of the crash my car had 130,000 miles on it and its a 2002.
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