#105779 - 02/19/04 09:31 PM
Re: GP or GTP
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My 02 GT seems to be the pefect car, for me. The 3.8L superchargers like to start getting noisy and clunky at 100,000 miles, and I'll assure you, it's not a cheap fix. The 3.8 is one of the best engines ever made, and has plenty of HP even without the supercharger. And, you don't need to run premium fuel. For durability sake, I'd recommend the standard GT with the standard 3.8.
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#105781 - 02/23/04 09:19 AM
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Hey, Brian. All I'm saying is that most people out there don't maintain like we do. I have just seen many, many 3.8 S/C engines with some miles where the supercharger was rather thrashy and loud. If he's looking at a used one, chances are the S/C oil was never serviced; most people I've seen don't do it. It's kinda like transmission fluid maintenance. I'm realizing that our group here is a little more caring about their vehicle's maintenance than 75% of others out there.
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#105782 - 02/23/04 11:45 AM
Re: GP or GTP
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Exactly, I agree with Adam, is not that the GTP IS a worse car or something is that since it needs a little more focuse on the S/C people doesn't always do the right maintenance, so is difficult to get a used GTP in conditions that don't became a problem.
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#105784 - 02/24/04 01:56 AM
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No sweat, Bryan. I get a little defensive even after a night of being sober!!
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#105785 - 02/24/04 08:29 AM
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So you guys gonna kiss or what???
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Traded in. 2003 GTP. Every option but HUD. New Mods: Wizaired CAI, SLP Headers, Cat, U-bend and Downpipe, 3.2 Modular Pulley, Phase 3 rollers w/OR Pushrods, Larger Belt Tensioner Pulley, Gatorback, AL103's, 180 Degree Stat, DHP
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#105786 - 02/24/04 12:08 PM
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Holy crap, don't mess with Jack today.
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#105787 - 02/25/04 10:15 AM
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Has all humor ceased to exist. Don't make me drive to Maine. No, really. I don't want to go to Maine.
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Traded in. 2003 GTP. Every option but HUD. New Mods: Wizaired CAI, SLP Headers, Cat, U-bend and Downpipe, 3.2 Modular Pulley, Phase 3 rollers w/OR Pushrods, Larger Belt Tensioner Pulley, Gatorback, AL103's, 180 Degree Stat, DHP
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#105788 - 02/25/04 10:25 AM
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Originally posted by jvojr: Has all humor ceased to exist. Don't make me drive to Maine. No, really. I don't want to go to Maine. I just found a couple of your responses funny. Don't drive to Maine, come to Mass and we'll do all the mods to your car and save you some money.
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#105789 - 02/26/04 09:23 AM
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I'd say, get as new a GT or GTP as you can get. Yes, the earlier ones had quite a few problems, even though they were minor. Rear brake noise, oil leaks, front rotor warpage, shifter interlock problems, wind noise...the list goes on. GM has been really good about taking care of a few of these characteristic problems each model year since 97. So the newer of model you can find, the better the vehicle will be, on average.
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#105790 - 02/26/04 11:49 AM
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Originally posted by Adam S.: Rear brake noise, check Originally posted by Adam S.: oil leaks, check Originally posted by Adam S.: front rotor warpage, check Originally posted by Adam S.: shifter interlock problems, check Originally posted by Adam S.: wind noise check Shall I continue?
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#105791 - 02/26/04 01:24 PM
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You may continue if you like. So, how's the car besides that?!?
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#105792 - 02/26/04 02:46 PM
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Keep in mind - the purpose you will be using the car for.
The GTP uses super unleaded and the insurance MAY be higher, so those are factors to keep in mind. Especially if you commute a long distance or get stuck in lots of traffic.
Oh and GTPs should not be used for towing, which might or might not be a factor for you.
Good luck!
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#105793 - 02/26/04 08:44 PM
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That's sort of why I bought the GT instead of the GTP. For what I use the car for, I can't justify running and paying for premium as well as added insurance cost only for an extra 30HP or so. Maybe I'm just getting old...
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