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#105794 - 02/26/04 09:29 PM Re: GP or GTP
jvojr Offline
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Registered: 07/31/03
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Loc: Catskills, NY
OK old man. It's 40 hp and a whole lot more torque. So there. Do those mods I PM'd you about. You'll be glad you did. I almost bought a GT last year before I got the GTP, but it turned out to cost only $1900 more for the GTP and the insurance was like $30 more every six months. And there's that penis thing. It was outa my hands(the car thing, not the other thing).
Jack
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2004 GTP CompG. WS6, 3.29 axle, HUD, tapshift, Premium sound, XM radio, leather, sunroof, 17inch 5 star chromies, BFG Comp T/A. Wizaired CAI.

Traded in. 2003 GTP. Every option but HUD. New Mods: Wizaired CAI, SLP Headers, Cat, U-bend and Downpipe, 3.2 Modular Pulley, Phase 3 rollers w/OR Pushrods, Larger Belt Tensioner Pulley, Gatorback, AL103's, 180 Degree Stat, DHP
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#105795 - 02/27/04 12:21 AM Re: GP or GTP
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First of all, I'm 29! Second, two grand for maybe 40hp and a requirement to run premium fuel (we can barely afford the cheap stuff around here as it is) isn't all that good of a deal to me. Remember, I said that "for what I use the car for". I bought it because it's a somewhat sporty, reliable, durable and practical car. If I really wanted performance, I'd buy a Vette and not mess around! And, I'd rather not talk about penises (or peni, which is the correct plural form) with you!
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#105796 - 02/27/04 08:10 AM Re: GP or GTP
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Loc: Gonzales Tx.
i think alot of people would be happier with a fairly stock gtp vs gt but as an owner of an 97 gt their are several good reasons to go gt 1st. cheaper insuance cheaper to buy so u can afford to build areal smoker. i built mine for just over 10000 canadian ist pulled the 100000 mile motor fresh rings&bearings deasent lift cam headrs venom injectors, under drive pulleys venompower module also to breath had a head shop port&pollish heads & shave 30 thou bringing comp. to 10.1 some eibach springs for handling i now dyno a true 272 whp at 5200 any gtp challengers Chico
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#105797 - 02/27/04 10:05 AM Re: GP or GTP
Adam S. Offline
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Loc: Milwaukee, Wi
Yeah
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#105798 - 02/27/04 11:23 AM Re: GP or GTP
Chew Offline
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Registered: 05/01/02
Posts: 311
Loc: Washington, DC
Hey Chico,

Those are some crazy mods! Any pics of the car? Do any appearance mods?

If you have a timeslip + proof / witness, you should go register your car on clubgp.com

It has to be one of the quickest GTs around - if not the quickest.

Oh, I have a GT (mostly demodded now - coupe) AND a GTP (sedan) ;-)
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#105799 - 02/27/04 11:46 AM Re: GP or GTP
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Registered: 03/26/03
Posts: 2481
Loc: Franklin, MA
I am perfectly happy with my GTP coupe, mainly because I don't have to mod it to get some good performance out of it. I live in MA, my insurance will be over $3000/year no matter what car I have.
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#105800 - 02/27/04 03:21 PM Re: GP or GTP
ddmcamaro Offline
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Registered: 01/22/04
Posts: 1
Loc: ohio
i bought a 2000 GT about 3 or 4 months ago, almost everyday i regret not buying a GTP
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#105801 - 02/27/04 03:43 PM Re: GP or GTP
Gozilla Offline
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Registered: 05/25/03
Posts: 40
Loc: houston,tx
there's still a chance.trade it in!!! savewave
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#105802 - 02/27/04 04:28 PM Re: GP or GTP
why2kmax Offline
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Registered: 05/01/03
Posts: 589
Loc: Bel Air Maryland
I say if you intend on modifying it for speed, get the GTP. Buying a GT and then trying to put a blower on it is like all these ricers who buy the civic DX because its cheaper and then spending $5,000 on engine mods to barely get any more HP than the upscale Civic EX was which was probably only $2,000 more to begin with.

If you are just buying it as a work car and all around driver, either is fine but what you save on insurance and fuel per year by getting a GT could be significant.

I drive 100 miles a day and fill up every 3 days. I dont like the fact that Im paying $4 more a fillup for super or a higher insurance premiums because of the supercharger. (my 2004 Honda Pilot has 240 hp and costs me $300 a year less in insurance) BUT for me its an acceptable tradeoff. I bought the GTP because it had more potential IF I wanted to mildly mod it (pully, pcm, airbox etc) and it had more creature comforts and options standard.

Bottom line as I see it is if you are young and going to mod the hell out of it because some Mudstain or Mitsu beat you at the red light in town, or you just have to get that extra .01 in the 1/4 then DONT get a GT. Cuz 90% of you out there prob dont have the time or money to pull the motor and make a monster.

Just my .05
Jeff
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#105803 - 02/27/04 06:50 PM Re: GP or GTP
Bryan R Offline
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Registered: 02/08/03
Posts: 309
Loc: Portland
Is the GTP more expensive to insure than the GT? For model years 97'-00', I think the GTP was technically an option package for the GT, and wasn't a separate model until '00 or something like that. If you buy used, that may work to your advantage if you buy a 97'-99'.

If your insurance company charges you more for a GTP than a GT, you should shop around for a different insurance provider. My G35 Coupe is cheaper to insure than my wife's TL. So many myths are debunked because of this.

Compared to the wife's TL, my G35 has less doors, less trunk space, less cargo space, more horsepower, and costs more, yet is somehow still about $180/6 months cheaper to insure.

For what its worth, the G35 and my GTP cost almost the same to insure.

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#105804 - 02/27/04 08:08 PM Re: GP or GTP
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Registered: 05/01/03
Posts: 589
Loc: Bel Air Maryland
Quote:
Originally posted by Bryan R:
Is the GTP more expensive to insure than the GT? For model years 97'-00', I think the GTP was technically an option package for the GT, and wasn't a separate model until '00 or something like that. If you buy used, that may work to your advantage if you buy a 97'-99'.

If your insurance company charges you more for a GTP than a GT, you should shop around for a different insurance provider. My G35 Coupe is cheaper to insure than my wife's TL. So many myths are debunked because of this.

Compared to the wife's TL, my G35 has less doors, less trunk space, less cargo space, more horsepower, and costs more, yet is somehow still about $180/6 months cheaper to insure.

For what its worth, the G35 and my GTP cost almost the same to insure.

cheers
Yes the GTP is more to insure because of the supercharger. Thats what I was told. Tried different companies too. No difference if Im 80 driving a GS Regal or 37 in a GTP. IMO its BS as both my pilot and GTP have 240hp yet they are baseing the increase of the GTP over the GT on the blower. I cant switch insurance yet as I have a ticket on my record and no one will write a new policy if you dont have a clean 3 year record in MD. Well some will but but you will pay double.

Insurance rates are based on a lot of different things. Safety equipment, theft rate, resale value, HP, age, record etc. If your $10-$15,000 GTP is the same insurance rate as your $30,000 G-35 then that suggests maybe that the GTP is expensive to insure, the G35 cheap or the acura totally insane. smile
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#105805 - 02/27/04 09:42 PM Re: GP or GTP
Bryan R Offline
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Registered: 02/08/03
Posts: 309
Loc: Portland
Quote:
Originally posted by why2kmax:
If your $10-$15,000 GTP is the same insurance rate as your $30,000 G-35 then that suggests maybe that the GTP is expensive to insure, the G35 cheap or the acura totally insane. smile
Maybe all three cheers
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#105806 - 02/27/04 11:14 PM Re: GP or GTP
jvojr Offline
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Registered: 07/31/03
Posts: 583
Loc: Catskills, NY
Hey Adam,
I hope you relize I mean what I say in good fun and not in a negative way. Is peni really a word?
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2004 GTP CompG. WS6, 3.29 axle, HUD, tapshift, Premium sound, XM radio, leather, sunroof, 17inch 5 star chromies, BFG Comp T/A. Wizaired CAI.

Traded in. 2003 GTP. Every option but HUD. New Mods: Wizaired CAI, SLP Headers, Cat, U-bend and Downpipe, 3.2 Modular Pulley, Phase 3 rollers w/OR Pushrods, Larger Belt Tensioner Pulley, Gatorback, AL103's, 180 Degree Stat, DHP
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#105807 - 02/28/04 02:40 AM Re: GP or GTP
Adam S. Offline
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Registered: 02/19/04
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Loc: Milwaukee, Wi
Of course I realize that, Jacko! And, no, I don't think it is actually a word, it's just something I made up, that I felt discribes the P word in its plural form, humorously. I'll look into it though...
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#105808 - 02/28/04 06:30 AM Re: GP or GTP
Chico Offline
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Registered: 02/08/04
Posts: 3463
Loc: Gonzales Tx.
u americans have an advantage of picking your ins. carrier in ont. can. we have brokers they tell u which carrier your using iknow the gtp is a gt option but they ask ,lie and they find out they drop u a as client then u have a he-- of a time. the diff. with my broker is 700.00 can. per ann. in answer to your ? of ext. mods. 97 2dr 66 corvette midnight black lowered 1 1/2" front&back i also grafted a 66 gto hood scoop on "functional" in thunderbay we dont have a drag strip i plan to run at gimli man. this spring this is the 1st year for the car hope to run low 13sill try to post pics in near future stay tunedas a 51 year old builder any questions ill be glad to help Chico
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