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#113331 - 04/17/07 03:17 PM Re: future gt(u)
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its called going to school and the government giving u money haha.... cant wait to go back... that and i got a lil from my mother passing almost 14 years... its only like 27... for everything but yea zzp i was talking with them and they were saying that with that set up i could prob run a 3.2... and if you look under the question about pulley it says you would have to run gtp pulleys and what not so i dont know hence why im comming to you
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#113332 - 04/17/07 05:08 PM Re: future gt(u)
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gtp pulleys? maybe they mean the idler and tensioner pulleys for the supercharger.
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#113333 - 04/17/07 05:15 PM Re: future gt(u)
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To use standard pulleys on the SS kit you would have to install a GTP balancer and all of the accessory pulleys from a GTP.

thats whats zzp tells me ....
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#113334 - 04/17/07 05:18 PM Re: future gt(u)
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yeah, the L36 crank pulley only has one set of ribs on it, the L67 crank pulley has 2 sets of ribs (1 for the acc. belt and 1 for the S/C belt)

you also need the 2 idler pulleys and 1 tensioner pulley
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#113335 - 04/17/07 06:04 PM Re: future gt(u)
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so those will be able to be added to the l36?? how much do they run where do you get them at? would i need the tensioner pulley even though i will have a double timing chain
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#113336 - 04/17/07 06:18 PM Re: future gt(u)
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Yes, it will work but you may need the CP bracket.

tensioner has nothing to do with the timing chain.

Ed morad is the best place to get all the pulleys
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#113337 - 04/17/07 06:21 PM Re: future gt(u)
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How did you get that all from zzp for $1100? That's a heck of a deal.

I figure ~500 for headers, 200 for the cam, 500 for the SSIC and you are already more than what they quoted you for everything on your list.

I'll let you negotiate my mods from now on if you can get a deal like that.
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#113338 - 04/17/07 06:22 PM Re: future gt(u)
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ok ill have to have a chat with him then... what do you think of the set up?? a lil too much?
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#113339 - 04/17/07 06:28 PM Re: future gt(u)
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no. the pulley scares me a little bit. i would go with the MPS and maybe get a 3.4 and a 3.3 pulleys. But just get a scanner/tuner. i think your car will haul with all of those mods. If you can afford it, do it. and save for your poor transmission. it wont be very happy with you
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#113340 - 04/17/07 06:33 PM Re: future gt(u)
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lol i hear you... no the whole amount for this is running around 2800 the headers are around a k and they would install it for 1100 but im thinking its cheaper to find a shop around here to do the work ive contacted one place but no word back yet..

ordonez what do you mean by a MPS? so let say i dont go that far down right now and go with a 3.4 just try that out and c how it goes? do you think the engine will be able to hold that much boost? i was scared cause on there site it said with the 3.2 it could run about 12 lbs of boost.....
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#113341 - 04/17/07 07:06 PM Re: future gt(u)
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MPS= Multi Pulley System

Once installed makes pulley swaps much easier. Very useful for future modding that allows smaller and smaller pullies.
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#113342 - 04/17/07 07:17 PM Re: future gt(u)
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where do you get that at? will it work on my L36?
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#113343 - 04/17/07 07:49 PM Re: future gt(u)
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Sweet six pound, eight ounce baby Jesus... this is getting a little ridiculous. No way can all this stuff be done for $1100.

Especially since you're paying ZZP to do it instead of doing it yourself. Not a chance. With all the stuff you say you're gonna do... you're in the $3,000ish ballpark anywho. Heck, the L36 SS M90 kit alone is right around a grand and can be more depending on how much you get your cores for.

The MPS presses into the snout of the supercharger, its not a matter of compatibility with the L36, it's just a fast method for switching S/C pullies only. The tensioner/idler pullies can be switched on without any problems. Just get a good air impact gun for the crank pulley.

While boost is directly related to pulley size and thus blower RPM's, you won't necessarily see 'X' amount of boost with a 'Y' size pulley. It's all about how well air flows into and out of the engine. Get an intake, headers, cam, and your boost numbers will drop. That's because you are moving more air, more efficiently through the motor, so more boost isn't necessarily better or worse. Right now, I see 7-8 psi at WOT, well ordonez did headers and I think he gets about 6.

You need to understand what you are doing to your car. It's fairly evident to me that you don't totally understand this stuff, you just gotta realize everything that's involved with everything you're talking about, you cant just say yeah, I'm getting a cam and headers, and the SS kit, and an intercooler and a race trans, and whatever else under the sun... it's simply not that easy. Before my top swap, I thought I knew alot about these motors and my car, well guess what I knew practically nothing. Its a much bigger process than I can stress or explain.

Be prepared to chunk out some serious dough, you're gonna halfta be either all the way in, or all the way out, there's no in between.

Rant finished
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#113344 - 04/17/07 08:01 PM Re: future gt(u)
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x2 on the prices, information, and knowledge.....it takes so much time money and knowledge to even think about completing that engine work
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#113345 - 04/17/07 08:32 PM Re: future gt(u)
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ok well just for everyone knows the kit with the everything i listed is around 2700 or 2800 and they will do the work for 1100... thats for the install of it all ...i know i have no idea what im doing all i know is that its a big whole in my wallet.. and thats why im comming to you all for help and all im getting told is to get told supporting mods this and supporting mods that so im getting supporting mods and it doesnt seem to connect.... and since i know nothing about it all i only know a lil im willing to spend more to have it done right ... so instead of running me around the bush come out and tell me what i should do ...
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