what is the diff. between a 97 and a 98+ SC also are they interchangeable because i am looking for one that i can send off to chico and get ported for a ssm90 kit

There is definitely some vaccum line difference.

Ther is just a vacuum tree that is extra on the 97 this outlet can be easily plugged no worries.Chico(pops)

thanks chico ... that should help me ... i was just worried about getting one and then not having it work

i found caseings for around 45 on ebay then i would have to get the rotors and snout here is a link http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/m90-case-...spagen ameZWD1V

then i would just have to get the rotors and snout? or would it just be easyer to get a comp supercharger??

because if all i have to get is the rotors then i found some http://www.clubgp.com/newforum/tm.asp?m=4159298&p=2&tmode=1&smode=1

you need the case, rotors, and the snout

thats it otherwise i can pick up some other stuff for cheeper depends

I would check some junk yards. There was a complete s/c down at my local junkyard off a 96 riviera, in great shape for $200. You can try to find something in clubgp, but just giving you some help. I put my rotors into a ported blower and it grinded a little, but that went away once it seated right. I have a a snout and case together and I stuck in some rotors from my car and sold the case and snout that was on the car.

You should be able to pick up an M90 for under $200.
Also, if you get pieces/parts, make sure your snout is completed... they are no fun to have to assemble.

i found one on club gp and im gonna pick it up as soon as i have the money hopefuly soon

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Jason Farnsworth who used to be on clubGP. He's the most knowledgeable guy I know of when it comes to M90's and I imagine he could tell you anything you need to know.

i basicly have a sc from clubgp all i have to do is get the cash it isnt 2bad of a sc how do you polish them up any ideas??

i basicly have a sc from clubgp all i have to do is get the cash it isnt 2bad of a sc how do you polish them up any ideas??

what injectors do the L67 use because when i do this m90 swap i want to use diffrent injectors so i can hopefuly run smaller the 4.0 pully they want you to run with the ssm90 kit

The GTP injectors are #33 but often referred to as #36 you will need to run these to run a 4" or smaller pulley ,the standard pulley used with the kit is a 4.2" and your gt injectors will support this size of pulley ,and FYI the SS kit with a ported blower GTP injectors and TB and a canned tune netted ZZP 250WHP &300WTQ .Chico(pops)

because i want to get a set of gtp injectors. chico what type of tb are you talken about a gt or a gtp TB because after this kit i think i might be as far as i will take the car tuning and hp wise then it will be more body mods

also what about fuel logs ... do i have to use the ones zzp says or can i use l67 logs ??

You can use the GT tb but after a point it will become a problem ,so start with a GTP TB and tune from there,as far as the fuel rails you would need the ZZP billet rails or you can modify a set of L-67 rails (not simple)it would require some cutting and a lot of minor bending to make them line up.Chico(pops)

ok ok ... well i guss i should just keep saven up for the billet fuel rails and i should prolly try to find a gtp tb

i found a guy that said he would sell me his m90 for 100 then a local guy said he would sell me a LIM M90 and a L67 TB for 300 because he is going with a gen v setup idk what kind of deal is this then i would have to get heads fuel rails ect basicly a top swap what would everyone say would be the best
???

The LIM and TB for 300 is a rip off. I got my entire top swap kit for 600, and honestly you should be able to find those two pieces for less than $100.

However, the M90 for $100 is a good price. As for the polishing... Jason Farnsworth is your man. Same guy whose email I gave you in my earlier post. It'll cost ya though, but they look amazing.

thats why i was wondering if i could do it my self .... or i might just paint it because i still think i can make it look good i think i might just cut my losses and do the ssm90 kit because yes it costs more but then i dont have to dig deep into the motor because since its my dd and i have no other transportation i cant affort not to have it

and drummer it was 300 for the LIM M90 and the L67 TB and the car had around 125K but i still think thats kinda high.

also this guy said he would tune my car for $100 useing a hp tuner what does anyone think is that a good deal or kinda a rip off ??

well, tell him that's illegal because the software is for his personal use only, and he can't legally "sell" you tuning services. he can provide them free of charge though... tell him that and see what he says :p

With HPTUners you can purchase a one car licence meaning your car or you can purchase a licence for the whole year which cost more credits. As soon as it reads the PCM it will tell him that he has to licence the vehicle if he has the one car licence. I have HPTuners for my T/A and have puchased the year option so that I can tune unlimited cars that are the same year as mine which is not illegal.

i just wish there was someone else closer to me that could tune my car urg haha

Just cruising the for sale section on CGP I found many cheap TB's for $50 or so ,I do'nt want to sway you one way or another but I would say with your apparent experience a top swap would require some experienced help,and yes Farnsworth does excellent polishing but as noted in an e-mail from him it can take him anywhere from 2 weeks to 3 months to deliver,if this is what you want I suggest you buy a spare SC and ship to him to have polished,good luck .Chico(pops)

Did you post over on clubgp if anyone is in your area for tuning? Make sure you provide location and stuff in your first post or you'll get dick answers.

there is a iowa club gp and idk everyone there is diffrent they are not the nicest group of ppl unlike on here .... this is the best site for grand prix out there

There's got to be one nice person (hopefully with a tuner)!

idk ... there is alot of drama on that site. anyone on here with a tuner?? that would want to tune me ??

That is why people opt for the ZZP kit tere off the shelf PCM seems to have the tuning down pat ,I ran there PCM for awhile before getting a custom dyno tune and it was working just fine ,another option is WBS they carry a top swap and a tuned DHP for the swap sooo go to town and get er dun.Chico(pops)

im pretty pumped to start doing the swap ... as soon as i get my g/f's ring paid off im getten the SC, then im gonna get a L67 Manifold from ed along with injectors and a TB then sending the Manifold to zzp. its getting to the point i am going to stand on the side of the road with a sign will work for car parts lol

I know the feeling Andrew! I was the same way when I was preparing for my top swap... haha

ahh if it was only easyer

i just bought some stuff to polish steel/aluminum, pads, compound i figure i remember doing it before in my highschool jewlery class.... ( i took the class for 2 reasons 1. it was easy and 2. there were some FINE FINE LADYS IN THERE lol ) so i figure it shouldnt be 2 hard to polish some stuff so once my parts start coming for my supercharger setup then i can start to polish them

I know it's difficult when money's short but take your time buy what you can when you can and eventually it will all fall into place ,if it will help you out when and if you decide on the ZZP kit instead of a top swap I'll mod your SC and port it for free just shipping .Chico(pops)

THANKS Chico, idk when it will be but adventualy, i really cant thank everyone on this site enough for all the advise and support they give ...

lol at the the jewelry class.

But seriously, just do it right, take your time. I took about 8 months of piecing my top-swap together with everything i wanted. And looking back, i wish i waited a bit longer and did the XP cam with it instead of rockers

x2 on taking your time.

I'm doing that with my suspension upgrades. So much easier and better to do everything you want at the same time. It helps to not get impatient, because that's always a formula for regret.

yeah its mainly i am going to slowly buy everything and then once i get everything i want i will put it all on at once ... i think it will help once i start making my first coupple buys