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#117869 - 12/30/09 01:12 AM Re: palsut's car 2010 project (56K) *6/7* update
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The KYB AGX struts arrived on Monday. laugh

Just buy a new springer compressor today. I'm ready to install them tomorrow.

I have a new question about anti-polo washer?

On top of struts mount or bottom of struts mount?

Thanks!

While I'm remove my front wheel tomorrow. I will take a look if I need to get new lower arm control. If need depend how bad rusty is. Any sugguestion what brand I should get? Any write up about that? I tried search but nothing mentioned it. Maybe blackarrow98gp will save other day again. laugh
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#117870 - 12/30/09 01:14 AM Re: palsut's car 2010 project (56K) *6/7* update
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#117871 - 12/30/09 01:36 AM Re: palsut's car 2010 project (56K) *6/7* update
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The anti pogo washers are what sit on top of the strut assembly.

Here are some good threads to look at.
http://www.clubgp.com/newforum/tm.asp?m=...ode=&s=#4859035

These are good if you want to trim the bump stop a little.
http://www.grandprixforums.net/f59/strut-mounts-and-bellows-replaced-15878.html

http://www.grandprixforums.net/f59/cutting-the-bumper-on-your-struts-15080.html
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#117872 - 12/30/09 01:58 AM Re: palsut's car 2010 project (56K) *6/7* update
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I wish you all the best on this mod...and I hope you dont have the same problem with vibration that I did...my car hasnt been the same since. But I also think my biggest mistake was the KYB GR2 struts...way too stiff for liveable ride with lowering springs.
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#117873 - 12/30/09 07:11 AM Re: palsut's car 2010 project (56K) *6/7* update
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Palsut when I said LCA (lower control arm) this can become worn and cause vibration ,either replace the bushings or replace the whole unit ,and I think you said you had the GMMP handling kit? then you replaced the rear trailing arm I hope because this is a necessity IMHO .Chico(pops)
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#117874 - 12/30/09 08:14 AM Re: palsut's car 2010 project (56K) *6/7* update
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im interested to see how this turns out for you Patrick. Im actually considering lowering this summer but I am not sure yet.
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#117875 - 12/30/09 03:19 PM Re: palsut's car 2010 project (56K) *6/7* update
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we have a 98 gtp and 99 gt. did kyb struts and mounts on gtp. stock springs. 110k miles. no difference in ride. have blizzak tires on it now and still seems way stiff. the 99 still has original struts and AS tires and seems to ride fine. not sloppy/mushy at all.
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#117876 - 12/30/09 09:54 PM Re: palsut's car 2010 project (56K) *6/7* update
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I decide to change title to palsut's car 2010 project because it is almost there instead make new thread. wink

Anyway let see....

ZZP control arm? $500?! Wow. Not sure if it is worth it. I checked mine and feel strong. Maybe I will take Chico's advice to replace bushings only. Maybe new stock lower arm control? See pictures in below...

Thunderbat: I hope it will go smooth. I know I read lot of struts thread to make sure what to use. If it is failed. Plan A for short dog bone or Plan B Vinnie's spacer (lift engine up little bit)

Thanks 01 GT. I will take lot of pictures how was project going on.

I took her to drive around on dry road after sitting for month. It is nice to drive but geez hate cold leather seat! lol

Today well NONE! Still can't get darn bolts out.

I spray lot of WD-40 on my both front struts and call it for day.

The struts right side nuts are off but bolts won't go out. I guess it was rusty bad inside or whatever reason why it won't go out. I guess I need buy heavy duty hammer to knock the bolt out tomorrow morning.

The struts left side nuts are stucked. Hopefully WD-40 will reach the rust so I can get it out tomorrow morning. If it is failed then I will rent air compressor with air gun to make job easy. I know 7 years and 110,000 is awful long time to stay there. I don't really want to take it to silly labor charge.

Before (left side)

Before (right side)


There are lot of goodies!


I just realize that SSC springs are different. 2 small and 2 little bit big. I believe 2 little bit big belong to rear right? I just guess because rear struts are bigger than front struts.

Lower Arm control


Old struts look... yuck. Can't wait for new one.
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#117877 - 12/30/09 09:58 PM Re: palsut's car 2010 project (56K) *6/7* update
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Got nuts out from right side but can't get it out


That's really strange bolts look. Wish it is mm bolts that would make my life easy for sure. I actually use 18mm wrench but no room to move because it was blocked by my rotor.


Beware of cat! laugh
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#117878 - 12/30/09 10:03 PM Re: palsut's car 2010 project (56K) *6/7* update
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Best of luck to you Palsut. I'm always so jealous of your gathering of parts and time to install them all. I hope those bolts come off for you and I hope you enjoy your new struts/springs!
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#117879 - 12/30/09 10:15 PM Re: palsut's car 2010 project (56K) *6/7* update
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Thanks grandprixGTAlphine. I'm actually on vacation this week. wink I guess it is always good time to move back to my dad's apt again after 2 years and half in my own apt. I just move back with my dad in early December to take care of my dad as my 3 half-sisters want me be there because I'm close to him. They are from Indiana (around 3 hours), California and Georgia.

The Guz: just miss your post. Thanks for info. Never heard about bump stop. Not sure if I have it on my old struts. I guess I will take a look when I get that bolts out. I was little confused about struts mounts top and anti-polo washer. They look pretty same.
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#117880 - 12/31/09 01:28 AM Re: palsut's car 2010 project (56K) *6/7* update
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Hammer those bolts out.
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#117881 - 12/31/09 01:56 AM Re: palsut's car 2010 project (56K) *6/7* update
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Corey is right Palsut, those bolts arent threaded in to strut, the threads are only for the nuts to go on. You may be able to place your floor jack under the ball joint and take some slight pressure off but just give then a good whack or two and they should slide right out.
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#117882 - 12/31/09 03:05 AM Re: palsut's car 2010 project (56K) *6/7* update
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Quote:
Originally posted by ThunderBat:
Corey is right Palsut, those bolts arent threaded in to strut, the threads are only for the nuts to go on. You may be able to place your floor jack under the ball joint and take some slight pressure off but just give then a good whack or two and they should slide right out.
All you need to do is hammer the bolts out as stated. Get a big enough hammer and knock them out. The strut plate on the top of the struts is where the anti pogo washer goes. It completes the strut and strut mount. AS far as the bump stop, that is optional. It gives the strut more travel when the strut is compressing. It's up to you if oyu want to do that.

Here is another thread on the anti pogo washers.
http://www.clubgp.com/cgi-asp/mods.asp?modid=68
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#117883 - 12/31/09 10:55 AM Re: palsut's car 2010 project (56K) *6/7* update
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I think you should have a compressor to begin with for a job of that size.
You bought a spring compressor kit or do you mean you rented one?
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