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#118222 - 06/27/05 11:11 PM Re: Idling Very Rough
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He didn't even give the code numbers.
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#118223 - 06/27/05 11:16 PM Re: Idling Very Rough
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Hello,

When you get your car scanned, it displays a number for the DTC(Diagnostic Trouble Code). Pending on the scanner whether it displays a brief description of what the problem is...... When trying to diagnose a problem, you can go much farther with the DTC number, than you can with the brief description. Since scanners are different, they may all have a different description, but they will all show the same DTC number.

Later now,
Clint
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#118224 - 06/28/05 06:27 AM Re: Idling Very Rough
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When the engine is idling unplug the MAF and see what the engine does. If it smooths out then the MAF is bad if it gets worse your MAF is good.
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#118225 - 06/29/05 10:20 AM Re: Idling Very Rough
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Well I took it to a shop and the cause is a bad fuel injector. $375.00 to replace w/ labor and to clean the others. This car is getting expensive to own. I've replaced the alternator, water pump, and now a fuel injector in the last 6 months. eek
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#118226 - 06/29/05 10:23 AM Re: Idling Very Rough
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This is a price we pay when you have/own a car.

Perhaps, the previous owner didn't take care of the GP, so you're paying for it. At least, you have the satisfaction of knowing those parts are 'new' in your GP.
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#118227 - 06/29/05 12:20 PM Re: Idling Very Rough
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by the way used cars will cost you on upkeep. Alternator, fuel pumps injectors don't last forever. I have a link on my web page for cleaning your own injectors.
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#118228 - 06/29/05 12:49 PM Re: Idling Very Rough
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I'm well aware parts go bad and don't last forever but it seems that I'm having many problems within a short time frame so I question the overall reliability of this car at 60,000 miles. I forgot to mention I had to replace the tie rods too. Total cost in labor and parts for the last 6 months has reached $1000+. I have also spent another $750 for maintenance with a tune-up, fluid changes, and brake pads/rotors.

Oh well..maybe I'm just a cheap and poor s.o.b. but I hope it's all been worth it and she keeps running strong for a few more years until it's paid off.
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#118229 - 06/29/05 06:11 PM Re: Idling Very Rough
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Part of the problem is your paying some one to do the labor. Hense the 750. Around here the shops charge $35 per half hour with an hour minimum. Everything you've listed is easy stuff for a DIYer. Aside from the injector cleaning (yes you can DIY but only if your comfortable with tools in your hands)

Besides those things all need to be replaced on any vehicle as they age. But just think Those tie rod ends should be good for another 60k water pump should be good for long time alternator for a long time.
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