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#118627 - 03/09/07 07:48 PM Engine conclusion
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So i finally got off the back head and the back right piston is chipped.....So it turns out its the last thing i wanted it to be im goin to the shop to see what they think i should do attempt to salvage it or swap with a motor from ED....If ne one has ne sugestions let me know hammer
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#118628 - 03/09/07 07:54 PM Re: Engine conclusion
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Put a new piston in and go. All depends on what the cylinder wall looks like. If it has heavy gouging it'll require complete tear down and machine work.
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#118629 - 03/09/07 10:05 PM Re: Engine conclusion
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Originally posted by HercMan:
Put a new piston in and go. All depends on what the cylinder wall looks like. If it has heavy gouging it'll require complete tear down and machine work.
Bore and stroke!!
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#118630 - 03/10/07 03:16 AM Re: Engine conclusion
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Stictly a judgement call,when you pull your motor have an experienced mechanic take a close look at cyl.walls and condition of the head ,you really need to think about what your future plans are for your car as this is a great time to plan your build, personally I do'nt recommend replacing just one piston in a higher mileage motor but it can be done with reasonably good results,your options are rebuild your present motor or buy a used motor from ed or if you want I could build a motor to any specs you want .Chico.
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#118631 - 03/10/07 04:39 PM Re: Engine conclusion
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I was tryin to keep it cheap for him.
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#118632 - 03/10/07 07:28 PM Re: Engine conclusion
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thanks guys....im bringin it to the machine shop in trhe next few days for them to pull out the block thats left and take it apart to c if i did alot of internal damage but i was curious about the bore n stroking how much would parts end up being and wat do i need?
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#118633 - 03/11/07 04:18 PM Re: Engine conclusion
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How much does it cost about to bore and stroke what are the parts??
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#118634 - 03/11/07 04:36 PM Re: Engine conclusion
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Too expensive. I think ZZP's base stroker kit is well over a grand. I would have your motor rebuilt but depending on your goals like chico said, now is the time if you're wanting to build a race motor, while you've got it out and apart.

Here's the link... http://www.zzperformance.com/grand_prix/products1.php?id=230&catid=109

It costs $1450.00
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#118635 - 03/11/07 09:11 PM Re: Engine conclusion
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drummer boy what do i need for the top end if its less then that imma just build its time.............
heads = $?
Lower intake manifold = $?
supercharger = $?
L67 wireing harness = $100
MISC = $?
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#118636 - 03/11/07 10:43 PM Re: Engine conclusion
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top end is like 750 from ed morad. with the misc. stuff i spent around $1000
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#118637 - 03/12/07 08:06 PM Re: Engine conclusion
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I spent more like $1100, but that was for the cam and everything associated with that. New timing chain, front cover gasket, etc.

Morad can send you the whole kit, like corey said, for $700-800 depending probably on the mileage of the parts. Oh yeah, and you don't need the L67 wiring harness for the top end swap... if you're putting in a whole GTP motor, then yes you will need it.
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#118638 - 03/13/07 05:15 PM Re: Engine conclusion
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does anyone know how to do it cheaper!!? hammer
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#118639 - 03/13/07 09:47 PM Re: Engine conclusion
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Originally posted by gteisele:
does anyone know how to do it cheaper!!? hammer
What the top end swap or the stroker kit?

I'm not sure what they do to the stock crank but you won't find one with the machining that's done to it at your local parts store. Plus they don't tell you what rods they are using.
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#118640 - 03/14/07 09:14 AM Re: Engine conclusion
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yea i dont know about that kit.....my car is going to a machine shop to have the block pulled not just a mechanic.....so i was really considering having an NA car puttin 250 to the wheels while its there i can bore it and whatnot......just wonderin if those parts could be found cheaper
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#118641 - 03/14/07 10:34 AM Re: Engine conclusion
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250whp? That's at or near the current N/A record holders. To do that, you'll at the least need p&p heads, big cam, and raised compression (if you don't have the stroker kit).
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