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#120934 - 04/26/05 07:32 PM Gas Mileage + Performance Mods
TechMetalMan Offline
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So what performance mods help gas mileage?

I know the u-bend delete will, as well as some other exhaust mods.

But what specifics?

How many MPG can be gained?

Will it pay itself off if gas is 2.00-2.15 a gallon?
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#120935 - 04/26/05 07:52 PM Re: Gas Mileage + Performance Mods
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Never worry about MPG's.
And gas down here is $2.40 for Prem.
Feel lucky.
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#120936 - 04/26/05 08:00 PM Re: Gas Mileage + Performance Mods
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That's a pushy subject. There are many possibilities for a "econ" mod. Most mods are economic. I wont even begin to start but lets say Intake, pcm, Spark plugs, Ignition sys., Exhaust system. blh blah blah. No accurate way to tell you a MPG saved either. Soo many variables. Im sure there are a few members that can help you out
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#120937 - 04/26/05 08:07 PM Re: Gas Mileage + Performance Mods
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Thanks..

Well I am asking because I may get my dad to pitch in if it helps my mpg enough...if I do anything at all...

Not thinking about real big internal mods or anything...more intake, exhaust stuff...pcm-not sure how much stuff like that runs but it could be a possibility...
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#120938 - 04/26/05 08:35 PM Re: Gas Mileage + Performance Mods
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Also if I do a CAI will that help my engine as well (I hear it helps mpg but I could be wrong) since it keeps it cooler?
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#120939 - 04/26/05 09:05 PM Re: Gas Mileage + Performance Mods
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I noticed a 3 mpg increase in mpg on the highway. City was unchanged. The hardest part of mpg increase with mods is you tend to put your foot into the pedal more after you've modded.
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#120940 - 04/26/05 09:47 PM Re: Gas Mileage + Performance Mods
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I only saw an increase in MPG when I did a full tune up at 75k miles.
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#120941 - 04/26/05 09:55 PM Re: Gas Mileage + Performance Mods
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I see much better mileage when I use Chevron 89 octane versus 87. And when I use cheaper gas, like from 7/11 (been a LONG time since I used that crap) I notice the MPG falls way off. I've got mods that both help and hurt fuel economy, but for sure the intake, downpipe, UD pullies, ported TB and exhaust manifolds help mileage.
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#120942 - 04/26/05 11:20 PM Re: Gas Mileage + Performance Mods
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Would a fuel filter affect mileage at all? I've done a full tune up other than the fuel filter, which is on the long list as soon as I get a chance. I guess I should do that soon, eh? With 122K on the thing. Anyone know how long these motors last, I'm starting to worry now that I'm getting closer and closer to 150K.
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#120943 - 04/26/05 11:49 PM Re: Gas Mileage + Performance Mods
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I'd change it. I need to change mine this weekend.
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#120944 - 04/27/05 01:47 AM Re: Gas Mileage + Performance Mods
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Quote:
Originally posted by nad:
Anyone know how long these motors last, I'm starting to worry now that I'm getting closer and closer to 150K.
I have a friend that had an 89 Regal GS with the 3800 (obviously earlier version), and he had that thing up to like 350k+ miles, but that may be a rare happening...
I would suspect they most will last up to and past 200k


as for mods adding mpg, I think most bolt on stuff like exhaust and intake stuff, will add mpg IF you are easy on the accelerator. Other mods, such as cams, obviously decrease mpg
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#120945 - 04/27/05 08:45 AM Re: Gas Mileage + Performance Mods
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There are GPs with the series 2 3800 running around with well over 200k.
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#120946 - 04/27/05 08:50 AM Re: Gas Mileage + Performance Mods
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3800 is a solid motor.
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#120947 - 04/27/05 11:03 AM Re: Gas Mileage + Performance Mods
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It's solid as long as you take care of it.
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#120948 - 04/27/05 01:07 PM Re: Gas Mileage + Performance Mods
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Quote:
Originally posted by nad:
Would a fuel filter affect mileage at all? I've done a full tune up other than the fuel filter, which is on the long list as soon as I get a chance. I guess I should do that soon, eh? With 122K on the thing. Anyone know how long these motors last, I'm starting to worry now that I'm getting closer and closer to 150K.
The fuel filter is one thing that can do a lot of damage to gas mileage. They get gummed up pretty quickly. Change it every 30k.

High octance gas will get you better mileage because of the way it burns.
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