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#127938 - 07/27/04 01:09 PM Re: Grand Am/G6 VS Grand Prix
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My girlfried bought an '03 Grand Am GT last year. Personally, I think the car corners better, is built tighter, and stops better. Most of these items are merely due to weight and size, of course. The 3.4 Ram Air works and sounds nice in that car, and is plenty quick enough.

Like Jizz said, these two cars aren't even in the same class. If anything, I always thought the GA was more of a chic's car, but that's off the point. If you were comparing the Grand Prix to say, an SHO, then that would be a more meaningful argument. But a GA is in a different class, but I feel that the GT Ram Air is a very fun, well built, and great car for someone who wants a "smaller Grand Prix".
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#127939 - 07/27/04 07:49 PM Re: Grand Am/G6 VS Grand Prix
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Not too sure on the comparing Vette to Camaro (not Camero) smile

A bone stock 99 Z28 was run by GM Hightech to a 12.8 et. And stock for stock a in a straight line the Camaro is in my experiece is 80%+ going to win. The Vette is over rated and not as fast as many people think. A good driver in a Z28 will beat a Vette. Now a Vette with Z51 suspension, and the optional Magnisum wheels is a killer on the road course, as is 1LE or B4C Camaro. And the ZO6 is a whole nother story. As well a F-Body is much cheaper to modify than a Vette.
I don't understand that at ALL...I beat 3 Z28's in ONE night before...One of them had gears and the quad borla exhaust in the center...I don't think the stock Z28 can run 12.8. Does this sound crazy to anybody else? a Vette is listed at like 13.4 I think...I don't know...
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#127940 - 07/27/04 09:16 PM Re: Grand Am/G6 VS Grand Prix
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Depends on what year Z28 you where racing. Early models like the 93 had only like 280 crank horse and werent really that quick. However the late models like the 350 horse were very capable of low 13's and high 12's. On a comparison notes. My friends Auto 96 formula bone stock with 120k miles on it ran a 13.89. his was supposed to have 285 crank horse........
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#127941 - 07/28/04 12:21 AM Re: Grand Am/G6 VS Grand Prix
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The Grand Am's are too plasticy? I don't think there's any more plastic on a GA than on a 97-03 GP, last time I looked.

Lower door panels and front and rear bumper covers.... on both.
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#127942 - 07/28/04 01:14 AM Re: Grand Am/G6 VS Grand Prix
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The Grand Am's are too plasticy? I don't think there's any more plastic on a GA than on a 97-03 GP, last time I looked.
That's a valid point, but there's a difference between looking plastic and actually being plastic. The GA looks plasticy because of the "ribs" the Pontiac put on it. They just make it look like a toy car.
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#127943 - 07/28/04 10:06 AM Re: Grand Am/G6 VS Grand Prix
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That's true, but it's definitely not the first time Pontiac did that. Fortunately, our cars are were one of the first models where the styling started getting "cleaner". But, thank God, the GA's starting in 03 went to solid lower door panels, with the ribs illiminated. It cleaned up the look of the car quite a bit.
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#127944 - 07/29/04 08:05 PM Re: Grand Am/G6 VS Grand Prix
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What I ment by "less fortunate" was I have a GM discount so I got my Comp G for about the same price as a Grand Am GT...I tell you what -- I have driven both very hard (GA-GT and GP-CompG) and I bet my car would whoop a GA in all aspects. My car rockets corners, straight line and stopping.

If you have never driven a Comp G, I suggest going the the dealer driving the crap outta one then come back and tell me a GA is better.

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#127945 - 07/29/04 08:07 PM Re: Grand Am/G6 VS Grand Prix
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Originally posted by Adam S.:
Like Jizz said, these two cars aren't even in the same class. If anything, I always thought the GA was more of a chic's car, but that's off the point. If you were comparing the Grand Prix to say, an SHO, then that would be a more meaningful argument. But a GA is in a different class, but I feel that the GT Ram Air is a very fun, well built, and great car for someone who wants a "smaller Grand Prix".
Well said -- this was the point I was trying to make. thumbsup
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#127946 - 07/29/04 08:07 PM Re: Grand Am/G6 VS Grand Prix
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JIZZ YOUR BACK BUDDY!!!!!!!!!!!!
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#127947 - 07/29/04 08:39 PM Re: Grand Am/G6 VS Grand Prix
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crazy can this topic die already crazy
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#127948 - 07/30/04 08:37 AM Re: Grand Am/G6 VS Grand Prix
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grand prix is faster, bigger, wider and well better
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#127949 - 07/30/04 02:59 PM Re: Grand Am/G6 VS Grand Prix
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IMO i think the grand ma is a girlie car, really not on top of the food chain if you get what i mean.

i know there are some guys here that have owned a grand ma then saw the light then got the real deal, or there wives or girlfriends own one, hell even my M-I-L owned one until she totalled it and i admit that im the one that talk her into buying it instead of japanese (her favorite).with no probs i will add.
now she owns a 04 olds alero with the 2.2 ecotech motor. she loves it (thank god) i hate car shopping
mad

but i will admit that there is one grand ma that i would own,i saw it in a magazine back in 79 or 78 it was a prototype built by pmd. it was a rwd with a pmd 301cid-4bbl with 4-sp manual. dam good looking full instumentation with the pmd snowflake wheels and a spoiler with ram- air. but it never made production.

alex, you need to tell this guy that our grand prix has over 40 yrs of heritage and comes with a 6cyl standard not optional and just a few years ago use to come with a v-8. ive never seen a grand ma come standard with v-6 power much less a production v-8.

if nothing else alex you could always tell him that his wife or girlfriend will always look good in his grand ma. hammer just too make those grand ma drivers jealous. cool lol
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#127950 - 07/30/04 10:15 PM Re: Grand Am/G6 VS Grand Prix
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Why would we want this topic to die? its fun....just because we are not being prductive doesnt mean anything. BTW the Grand am has far more door plasic its half the door. I know this cuz my sisters car is a grand am and it is literally half the door where as the 97-03 gp where just the bottom skirts ahh well....i love the look of the 97-03 gp just as much as i love my 04 gp......in fact i may pic up a used 03 in the near future...gotta love pay raises......
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#127951 - 07/31/04 06:53 AM Re: Grand Am/G6 VS Grand Prix
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I used to compare the GA's body moulding to the Testarossa kit for the Fiero. You know the one. Not the high dollar one either.
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#127952 - 07/31/04 11:23 AM Re: Grand Am/G6 VS Grand Prix
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Originally posted by jvojr:
I used to compare the GA's body moulding to the Testarossa kit for the Fiero. You know the one. Not the high dollar one either.
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