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MMMMMM... GXP.... MMMMM...NICE!!!!

Gotta clean up my drool now. : :

Nice to see it without the cladding (the stuff that covers the car in spy shots). I see they went old school pontiac style with the shape of the grills (if they pulled out the nose a few inches). Any mechanical info on it?

GXP Boosts Grand Prix Profile

Pontiac's effort to boost the performance image of all its vehicles visits the Grand Prix next. The mid-size four-door will inherit a version of GM's 5.3-liter V-8, re-engineered for front-drive use, in the new Grand Prix GXP. In this installation it makes 290 horsepower and 325 lb-ft of torque, and is mated to a four-speed automatic transmission. The GXP also gets 12 percent better fuel economy than it would without Pontiac's first use of Displacement on Demand, technology that shuts off a bank of cylinders under light driving loads. Pontiac pegs the 0-60 time for the GXP at roughly 6 seconds. New styling tweaks, including new front and rear fascias, 18-inch wheels, and new interior trim distinguish the model, for which pricing hasn't been announced. Sales begin in the first quarter of 2005.

Damn...that look good!

Wow, I didn't realize they would be releasing it as soon as first quarter 2005. Very sweet.

Imagine the mod possibilities now !!!!

I'm almost kinda sorry they changed the styling of the front fascia...I kinda liked the big round half/half lights in the new models...but thats a minor point, the hardware is what counts!...man geez!...all this new cool stuff keeps comin out...It makes it real hard to plan on modding and keeping your present ride!

Wow! Nice looks and a great "personality"
Hopefully they'll keep the price reasonable, or else that beast will just sit on a lot, getting lots of looks but no sales.

With the current price of a Comp G I'd put this in the same price range as the GTO. In all honesty how many adults can fit comfortably in a GP? Even with three kids in the back is a bit tight for them. If you have a family of four or less the GTO would be the better buy. Once this car is paid for I'll be lookin for a RWD performance car and once the Silverado is paid for I'll be lookin for a Suburban.

where did this pic come from? looks good to me.

Honeslty Herc -- It seems to me the GOAT has the same rear room as the 04+ GP. Other than the 4 doors - it is just as roomy

Im shocked.
290 HP comming from 5.3 V8??? The torque I can live with but only 290 HP? It could have went past the 300 mark at least.
If the GTO has this styling, I would get the Goat. Guess I'll just wait until the styling for it changes.

Doesn't the GTO have buckets in the rear? I'd think those would be more comfortable then the bench in the GP. Four doors I don't need. Kids are young they can climb past the B pillar and the door.


Ahhh yes it does.


and the GP

The GTO wins in the interior, for me.

i asked before i will ask again. where did this picture come from?

Sweet car, I liked the original concept better.

BTW - That picture's URL is: http://www.newagegto.com/forum/index.php?act=Attach&type=post&id=31613

Ask this guy, he's the original poster of the picture: http://www.newagegto.com/forum/index.php?showtopic=2987


Just doing some detective work....

also www.gminsidenews.com

Oh BABY!! Looks really great. Anyone notice the drilled rotors? Time for a test drive!!

Me too --- oh wait my 3year old does climb in -- he plays like he is a Commando getting into a stealth car and as you can see from the pics the interior room is about the same... This is why I love my GOAT -- true 2x2 seating unlike the T/A,Camaro,Rustang or even the G35 coupe which I have terrorized more than once.

I saw the pic first on gminsidenews.com - I agree that it should be more than 290 hp and less than "roughly 6 seconds" in the 0-60. With a little modding we can get below that already. Since this baby's got a V8 under the hood, they should easily be able to get her in the mid to high 5's.

IMO though...

its just too grand dam good lookin... .

Yea the styling is really good but I wouldn't buy it.

I mean there are some 3.x natually aspired stock V6s that can hit these numbers. And the engine is relatively huge 5.3 liters and this is the best it can get?? This is slightly depressing. How is it going to compete? Loyalists may start to churn away after a few years.

No replacement for displacement? Try no substitution for engineering evolution.

Also in general, I prefer FWD but V8 FWD seems odd.

yeah that bonneville gxp is a nice looking vehicle also, even though i cannot afford to buy a bonny the fact that the gxp comes with a v-8 (northstar) that so far i have not heard of any motor mods to make her a true go-go bonny i would be kinda shy to make a purchase.

The 5.3 is not a Northstar. Northstars are OHC engines. Also take a look at GMs plans for the future.

As found from gminsidenews.com

G8- Large RWD Sedan based of Zeta Platform with debut around 2007/08. Will be powered by both a 3.9L V6, and 5.3/6.0L V8's. Replacement for the Bonneville, and possibly the Grand Prix
Grand Prix- The Grand Prix will receive a GXP version in late MY 2005 as a 2006 model. It will be powered by a 280-300 HP 5.3L LS4 powertrain. unfortunately, the 4 speed automatic transmission will remain until 2007 (at the earliest) when it is replaced by a 6 speed automatic. Also, the current 3800 engine series will be discontinued in 2006/07, replaced by the 240 hp 3.9L V6. In 2008, the Grand Prix will either be replaced by the G8 sedan, or carry on along side it.

i will shed a tear when they retire the grand prix ...

i love the car and the history it has . it will be missed

I will be happy I like the direction pontiac is going if they would have painted the mirrors on the G6 would have been better

the tailend of the 04's isnt the same as the grand prix's i grew up with. its just not the gp look. the front end i can deal with but not the tail end. they need to keep to the old school from 97 to 03 tail ends!!!

I believe they changed the tail end to update it to the new trend of styling i.e. High end.

It seems most manufactures are just following the Altima's styling.

Well it is not just the styling... the trunk opening is a lot bigger on the 04 than the previous gen.

But yes all manufactuers follow what is hot - all of them!

I personally after buying my 04 would NOT go back to my 98. I like everything so much more on this car than my old one. There is to much to even mention here. Now only if it had some wheels.......maybe this month ahh well.

So does this thing still use the 4T65-E tranny? It should have a 5 speed slushbox by now. Besides, if the 4T65-E could already barely handle the 280 pound feet of torque from the blown V6, how's it going to handle the V8?