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#14090 - 01/13/07 04:23 AM Re: Let's Play: Guess the Dyno Run!
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Stock L-36's ran between 195chp and 205chp ( bonneville's) and the only difference was the PCM and intake,so I would guess your whp at 172whp. stock is 160-165whp ,a couple of problems with guesstimating you did'nt say what type of dyno or elevation ,dyno's can be confusing for many as they tend to think that advertized hp increase for mods will be acurate,anyway good luck .Chico.
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#14091 - 01/13/07 10:53 AM Re: Let's Play: Guess the Dyno Run!
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168
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#14092 - 01/13/07 04:47 PM Re: Let's Play: Guess the Dyno Run!
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Quote:
Originally posted by snowrider900:
I thought the gt's were 190 at the crank and the gtp's were 240??, did i get some wrong info??
SE's are 190 HP.
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#14093 - 01/13/07 05:12 PM Re: Let's Play: Guess the Dyno Run!
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Nope, 175hp/195tq frown
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#14094 - 01/13/07 05:24 PM Re: Let's Play: Guess the Dyno Run!
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Rook is correct.
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#14095 - 01/13/07 06:46 PM Re: Let's Play: Guess the Dyno Run!
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So what were the results??? This dyno was being done this morning right? smile
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#14096 - 01/15/07 06:39 PM Re: Let's Play: Guess the Dyno Run!
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Well, here are the results.

Elevation was 1100 feet. It was a mobile dyno that was very similar to this one:
http://www.mobiledyno.com/


They aren't that good. Its kind of depressing.
155.9 HP/ 179.8/TQ.

HercMan: 180
framos242: 183
Drew521: 188
AustinGTP: 185
RooK: 192
drummerboy1307: 175
D: 181
pedal down: 195
zuulmusic: 178
Joshua Forman: 160-170
brown: 3
Chico: 160
ordonez1307: 168

Chico and Forman are the closest. Since Chico gave a specific figure, Chico will get the reward first. Therefore, Chico:

YOU DA MAN!!


Forman:
YOU DA MAN!!
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#14097 - 01/15/07 06:58 PM Re: Let's Play: Guess the Dyno Run!
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So I am less than stock. According to my gauge, the KR was around 3.5-4 at the higher levels. I am running a lean on the lower end.

Just to think, all that $$$ (mods + using 93 octane all the time) and I am lower than stock.

Possible causes are the intense PCM and the exhaust. Even if I change the PCM to a digital horsepower one, it probably won't help much. That plus getting a d/p may get me back to stock.
wow. just wow.

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#14098 - 01/15/07 08:32 PM Re: Let's Play: Guess the Dyno Run!
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Lower then stock, that sucks. Is everything ok with your car, engine wise? It just seems it should be alittle more then stock not less.
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#14099 - 01/15/07 09:20 PM Re: Let's Play: Guess the Dyno Run!
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That KR is killing you. Plus how many miles on the motor?
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#14100 - 01/15/07 10:47 PM Re: Let's Play: Guess the Dyno Run!
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That doesn't make sense? I guess they always say to expect low numbers but I'm sure you weren't expecting that low... bummer man. Good luck getting to the bottom of that KR.
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#14101 - 01/16/07 12:03 AM Re: Let's Play: Guess the Dyno Run!
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130k miles on it.

From what I'm told, GTs come with KR by design + high compression. As far as I know, everything with the engine is fine.
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#14102 - 01/16/07 12:46 AM Re: Let's Play: Guess the Dyno Run!
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What kind of dyno was used ? and was the operator experienced? Dyno's can often be confusing and misleading and unless the operator uses the correct formula for temp. and elevation corrections your results will be off,Abs=RelHg-(elevation/1000) and a correction factor of CF=1.18x(29.22/Bdo)xTo+460/537)-0.18 where TO is ambiant air temp. in f and Bdo is dry ambiant absalute barometric pressure,Is that confusing enough for you.Chico.
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#14103 - 01/16/07 03:10 PM Re: Let's Play: Guess the Dyno Run!
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Just checked. It was a Mobile DynoJet 248. It took into account the elevation, ambient temperature and barometric pressure. The shop seemed to be pretty experienced and they had several cars they were working on.

It was also ran in 2nd gear. They tried 3rd but it didn't go right. Could 2nd gear be the reason for low numbers?
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#14104 - 01/17/07 07:41 AM Re: Let's Play: Guess the Dyno Run!
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Running in second gar should'nt be a problem but there is definately somthing wrong ,your tq qnd hp curves seem to be normal right up to peek which is 4400-4700 ,did you keep your stock pcm? and when you ordered your Intense PCM did you get the standard PCM with stock timing? as far as your Knock ratio a DP and possibly rockers would take care of this problem,this is why I suggest if you plan on dyno'ing your car get a stock baseline before you start modding .Chico.
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