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#145718 - 05/09/07 08:08 AM L36 SS M90 review
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Well all-in-all great product. I started it on a Thursday night, it took about an hour to get everything apart. Putting it back together it took about 2 hours. I did the valve cover gaskets to and I was regreating not doing rockers too b/c it could have had them on in about an hour. My only dislike about it is the bulliet fuel rails didn't line up right so I had to bend the brackets, other then that the kit is great. Total price about 1400 including Oil, coolant and new MAP sensor. Install time about 4 hours in total. The car pulls like a SOB. If I go WOT from anything less then 40MHP the tires break losse, and you have to get off of it.
Does anyone want to take a dyno guess I'm getting it done tomrrow. MOds are in sig.
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1997 Grand Prix GT: ZZP SS M90 Kit--P&P Blower and LIM--3.8" Modular pulley--36# injectors--ZZP Wizair CAI--8.5mm MSD Wires--Autolite 103s@ .052--180* drilled T-stat--Tune Time Performance Tune--ZZP 2.5" D/P w/o Cat--ZZP Stage 1 HV TB--ZZP Power Log & Rear PEM--ZZP Poly Motor & Tranny Mounts--Flowmaster 40 Series Delta Flow Mufflers--Auto Meter Z Series Boost & Oil Pressure Gauges--Aeroforce Interceptor Scan Gauge

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#145719 - 05/09/07 08:11 AM Re: L36 SS M90 review
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207hp
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#145720 - 05/09/07 09:04 AM Re: L36 SS M90 review
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Glad to hear that it went so well for you. You'll dyno higher than me. I'm guessing 230 whp.
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#145721 - 05/09/07 10:59 AM Re: L36 SS M90 review
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230 is also my guess....good luck
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#145722 - 05/09/07 02:49 PM Re: L36 SS M90 review
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another convert to the hi-pressure club...us N/A guys are becoming more scarce by the day lol ...congrats on the smooth changeover, sounds awesome thumbsup

(of course all this is worthless without pics cool )
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#145723 - 05/09/07 05:26 PM Re: L36 SS M90 review
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wow, congrats man. Sounds a LOT easier than the top swap. Dyno is no fun. Get it to the track
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#145724 - 05/09/07 06:30 PM Re: L36 SS M90 review
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Ordonez how much time did you spend on yours? It took me about 28 working hrs spread over 3 days for the complete job from start to finish.
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#145725 - 05/09/07 06:39 PM Re: L36 SS M90 review
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With a 4" pulley you should dyno 250whp.
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#145726 - 05/09/07 07:13 PM Re: L36 SS M90 review
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With a 3.8 pulley I "should" dyno more than that... arg.

mad
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#145727 - 05/09/07 07:53 PM Re: L36 SS M90 review
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The SS kit is getting better dyno results than the top swap for a number of reasons,ported LIM ported Blower, injector placement ect.and should dyno about 50whp higher than a L-67.Chico.
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#145728 - 05/09/07 11:00 PM Re: L36 SS M90 review
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Quote:
Originally posted by drummerboy1307:
Ordonez how much time did you spend on yours? It took me about 28 working hrs spread over 3 days for the complete job from start to finish.
about 50 hours. But there were a whole lot of unexpected problems. Should have done it in half the time.

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Originally posted by Chico:
With a 4" pulley you should dyno 250whp.
Really?! I had no idea that it would be so much higher. Im really curious to see what his car does now
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#145729 - 05/09/07 11:56 PM Re: L36 SS M90 review
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d-mn the luck, hopefully my new found XP turns my car into a whole new beast.

I am ready to see some 13 second timeslips...
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#145730 - 05/10/07 12:28 AM Re: L36 SS M90 review
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Besides the 253whp that the ZZP tested car with a 4" pulley put down what I found more interesting that this car put down slightly over 300wtq,this was on a high mileage l-36.Chico.
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#145731 - 05/10/07 09:41 AM Re: L36 SS M90 review
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Come on D!! What's are the numbers? If you reach 250 i'm buying this kit tomorrow.
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#145732 - 05/10/07 12:36 PM Re: L36 SS M90 review
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Well the numbers are in, and the winner is Chico, 262WHP w/ 307wtq. devilgrin , I never expected it to be that high, when the guy got done he asked what the hell I did to it, i just laughed. I didn't want to pay the guy $400 to dyno tune it, so I'm going to fine tune it over the next week or two and get it dynoed again. From the scans as he was doing it, I can add alittle timing.
Here is a summary for you guys:

Price- $1400 total.
Labor time - 4hrs
Difficulty- medium
Results- 262whp w/ 307wtq

Need a good set of tools, torque wrenchs (ftlbs), and the patence to read the directions ZZP give you for the vac lins b/c they get confusing.

I will post the before and after pics alittle later, plus a small vid of the S/C whine.
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1997 Grand Prix GT: ZZP SS M90 Kit--P&P Blower and LIM--3.8" Modular pulley--36# injectors--ZZP Wizair CAI--8.5mm MSD Wires--Autolite 103s@ .052--180* drilled T-stat--Tune Time Performance Tune--ZZP 2.5" D/P w/o Cat--ZZP Stage 1 HV TB--ZZP Power Log & Rear PEM--ZZP Poly Motor & Tranny Mounts--Flowmaster 40 Series Delta Flow Mufflers--Auto Meter Z Series Boost & Oil Pressure Gauges--Aeroforce Interceptor Scan Gauge

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