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#148487 - 01/21/05 07:38 PM Differences between an S.E and G.T
Louie Offline
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I was just curious what the actual differences in my S.E and the G.T? My S.E has 3800 series 2 don't know about the tranny. Is it just cosmectics or is there more to it than that?
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#148488 - 01/21/05 07:51 PM Re: Differences between an S.E and G.T
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I thought that some SE's actually came as a 4 cylinder and the one exaust system. Really that's all I knew maybe some didn't come with all the power options and I know I see most with Hub-Caps
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#148489 - 01/21/05 07:56 PM Re: Differences between an S.E and G.T
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I have all power options as well but no HUB-CAPS.Funny you mention a 4 cyl because I didn't know they made one,and I work for Napa in Canada.
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#148490 - 01/21/05 10:22 PM Re: Differences between an S.E and G.T
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tsk tsk, no four-bangers in the 97-03 GP family. The SE was the exterior body trim, less options available, and possibly? a weaker tranny. Otherwise - you could get the 3100 engine, or the 3800 series 2 engine, under the hood. Honestly, I'd think an SE with the 3800 would make a nice sleeper with the right mods, because to other GPers they'd be thinking "Ha, look at that SE trying to race me! With his puny 3.1L"
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#148491 - 01/22/05 02:55 AM Re: Differences between an S.E and G.T
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Originally posted by DoberManJT:
tsk tsk, no four-bangers in the 97-03 GP family. The SE was the exterior body trim, less options available, and possibly? a weaker tranny. Otherwise - you could get the 3100 engine, or the 3800 series 2 engine, under the hood. Honestly, I'd think an SE with the 3800 would make a nice sleeper with the right mods, because to other GPers they'd be thinking "Ha, look at that SE trying to race me! With his puny 3.1L"
I thought the SE ment 4 doors, or special edition smile . ( sleeper edition hammer ) LOL Hey Dober? Did your pretty lady come with two pipes mines a single 01 Nice pic's I enjoyed the engine shots.
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#148492 - 01/22/05 08:30 AM Re: Differences between an S.E and G.T
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My "lil baby" SE came bone-stock -- so I had the single-outlet catback cut out and replaced with the stock catback from a GTP, total cost for me was only $80 including parts and labor. I've also got the rear bumper cover from a GTP that I'm cleaning up/touching up to replace the SE stock rear. Soon my SE really will stand for "special edition" cheers Although I've toyed around with the idea of a custom badge, along the lines of "STP" or "GE" or the ill-fated "SEX" (as in GTX, but for SE heh) crazy
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#148493 - 01/22/05 11:28 AM Re: Differences between an S.E and G.T
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SE's have the 3100 series v6 instead of the 3800 series v6, I dunno if theres a tranny diff. Looks a bit different and yea less options.
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#148494 - 01/22/05 12:01 PM Re: Differences between an S.E and G.T
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the SEs had the option of a 3800 v6, only difference was it would be a 3800 with a single outlet exhaust
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04 GTO Impulse Blue Metallic, LPE intake system, headers, dyno tune from "RPM"

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#148495 - 01/22/05 08:07 PM Re: Differences between an S.E and G.T
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Just to throw out a question, but are there any handling differences between the SE and GT?
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#148496 - 01/22/05 08:12 PM Re: Differences between an S.E and G.T
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the dif between the 3800 se and the 3800 gt was the the dual exhaust and dif options in the interier and the "body kit" they put on it. but the 3100 comes with 180hp and the gt has 200hp but i have no idea bout the tranny and the handlin
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#148497 - 01/22/05 10:00 PM Re: Differences between an S.E and G.T
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Logic states that there shouldn't be any difference in the handling - but could be wrong?
I've got a buick stb for the back and another stb (the "fancy" kind) for the front on the way, so that should stabilize my ride... and the shocks, struts, etc. should all be the same as the GT, correct?
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04 GTO Impulse Blue Metallic, LPE intake system, headers, dyno tune from "RPM"

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#148498 - 01/22/05 10:05 PM Re: Differences between an S.E and G.T
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Originally posted by DoberManJT:
tsk tsk, no four-bangers in the 97-03 GP family. The SE was the exterior body trim, less options available, and possibly? a weaker tranny. Otherwise - you could get the 3100 engine, or the 3800 series 2 engine, under the hood. Honestly, I'd think an SE with the 3800 would make a nice sleeper with the right mods, because to other GPers they'd be thinking "Ha, look at that SE trying to race me! With his puny 3.1L"
true, true, but anybody with half a brain about our cars, knows that an SE with the 3.8 says "3800V6" right up front by the corner lights on both sides, and someone correct me if I'm wrong, but the SE had a bigger muff, cause it had the bigger engine (don't know this for sure)

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#148499 - 01/22/05 10:20 PM Re: Differences between an S.E and G.T
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true, true, but anybody with half a brain about our cars, knows that an SE with the 3.8 says "3800V6" right up front by the corner lights on both sides
that's what debadging is for thumbsup
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04 GTO Impulse Blue Metallic, LPE intake system, headers, dyno tune from "RPM"

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#148500 - 01/23/05 01:24 AM Re: Differences between an S.E and G.T
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did the SE get the 4wheel disc brakes?...4wdisc, bigger wheel/tire combo, better suspension, dual exhaust, steering wheel controls, different fascias and side skirts, leather steering wheel and shift knob and I know some came with leather seating but mine has cloth...plus I wanted a coupe and I dont recall seeing a 2dr SE.
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#148501 - 01/23/05 02:03 AM Re: Differences between an S.E and G.T
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Doesn't the 97 SE have a weaker tranny or something? The 4T60E instead of the 4T65E or somethin like that?
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#148502 - 01/23/05 07:20 AM Re: Differences between an S.E and G.T
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My SE came with 4 wh disc brakes and 16" wheels and on the sticker was listed as "wide-track" package, but that could've just been a generic term used by dealership to try and sell car.
More than a few people have asked me why I got the SE and not a GT or GTP -- when I was shopping around for a car I was looking at pontiacs and chevys, but I have a friend who works at a large honda dealership and he found a 2002 pontiac grand prix SE on their lot that was being sold for $8999, originally $11999 but reduced because it'd sat on the lot for five months with no interest - mind you this was in mid-2003, so the car was barely a year old, just had high miles (28k) but the price was unbelievable so I jumped on it.
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Silver '02 SE with the "wee 'lil" 3100, raised spoiler, custom-made cone intake, dual exhaust catback, u-bend delete

04 GTO Impulse Blue Metallic, LPE intake system, headers, dyno tune from "RPM"

http://photobucket.com/albums/v221/Dobermanjt/GrandPrix/
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#148503 - 01/23/05 02:43 PM Re: Differences between an S.E and G.T
Louie Offline
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Originally posted by ThunderBat:
did the SE get the 4wheel disc brakes?...4wdisc, bigger wheel/tire combo, better suspension, dual exhaust, steering wheel controls, different fascias and side skirts, leather steering wheel and shift knob and I know some came with leather seating but mine has cloth...plus I wanted a coupe and I dont recall seeing a 2dr SE.
My S.E has 4 wheel disc leather steering wheel ect. But I would like to know if it has the weaker tranny? If so would the G.T.P tranny bolt in snd be compatible with the computer or am I going to have to replace the computer? eek
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#148504 - 01/23/05 10:21 PM Re: Differences between an S.E and G.T
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Yeah Louie, I'd like to know the same thing. Anyone know???
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#148505 - 01/26/05 12:13 AM Re: Differences between an S.E and G.T
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The SE model came with the 4T60E tranny....mine did with the 3100.

The 97 GT with the 3800 has the same...a 4T60E tranny. Then from 98 and up, the GT came with the 4T60E non HD. I do believe...someone correct me if I am wrong.

And I do believe you will have to replace the computer. I am doing an engine swap soon, and will have to change the comupter...
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#148506 - 01/26/05 07:02 AM Re: Differences between an S.E and G.T
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The Wide Track was a marketing ploy. It originated back in the 60s. The Pontiac versions of GMs line pushed the wheels out and marketed it as Wide Track. In 97 Pontiac brought the idea back for marketing. Iirc. the 96 GP actually had a wider track then the 97s. Go figure.
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