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#152369 - 04/18/04 10:15 AM Re: 5.3 L V8 in '05 GTP???????
BryantGTP Offline
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are those "forecasts" based on any real data? Or just what MT think GM should do?
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#152370 - 04/18/04 08:28 PM Re: 5.3 L V8 in '05 GTP???????
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look at how many times MT or C&D or any of the "big" magazines say "this is what is going to happen"..... but remeber this weater it is forcasts or reality, people like us hoping are what makes it happen (believe it ro not). The MFGs really do pay attention to what we want.

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#152371 - 04/19/04 12:05 PM Re: 5.3 L V8 in '05 GTP???????
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Just an FYI: GTO is NOT based on a Grand Prix coupe. It is based on a Holden Monaro (Australia only model).

While the Grand Prix might get a V8 - I would guess only a detuned Northstar like the Bonnevilles. Unless they decide to bring over a variant of the Holden Commodore (which is a sedan) and I believe had the LS series v8.

Only the Corvette (Chevy flagship) or the GTO (looking to become the Pontiac flagship) will get the LS1 or LS6 motors in the USA for exclusivity purposes.
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#152372 - 04/20/04 09:44 PM Re: 5.3 L V8 in '05 GTP???????
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HEY I BROUGHT THE THING UP ABOUT THE MONARO CHEW!!!! Just playing, I don't care any v8 with 250 plus horsey's in a gp would be so freakin cool. Multi-valve or pushrod who cares.
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#152373 - 04/22/04 08:15 AM Re: 5.3 L V8 in '05 GTP???????
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Originally posted by 4 T 8 states:
ive said it once and i`ll say it again.
i not a fan of bob putz i mean lutz... id take him out behind the g.m. corp building and wup his dam ass.

then id jump in my gtp and put the hammer down hammer now that its spring.
That's right, whip his candy ass!

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#152374 - 04/22/04 08:32 PM Re: 5.3 L V8 in '05 GTP???????
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I sort of think the rear drive thing is going to come back in the next few years. REAL performance cars have always been and will always be rear drive. Corvette, BMW, Mercedes, Ferrari, etc. Turn up front, power in the back. It's the way God intended.

As for what GM's going to do in the next few years? I've heard from numerous places that one of their goals is to start the rear drive, V8 thing again, and actually start offering MANUAL transmissions again. Again, a manual trans is another must for a real performance car. Hopefully it all works out...
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#152375 - 04/22/04 11:45 PM Re: 5.3 L V8 in '05 GTP???????
Rich GTP Offline
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Chew, who said that the GTO is based on a Grand Prix coupe? It should have been! Then it would look like a GTO
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#152376 - 04/23/04 11:09 AM Re: 5.3 L V8 in '05 GTP???????
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Originally posted by Adam S.:
I sort of think the rear drive thing is going to come back in the next few years. REAL performance cars have always been and will always be rear drive. Corvette, BMW, Mercedes, Ferrari, etc. Turn up front, power in the back. It's the way God intended.

As for what GM's going to do in the next few years? I've heard from numerous places that one of their goals is to start the rear drive, V8 thing again, and actually start offering MANUAL transmissions again. Again, a manual trans is another must for a real performance car. Hopefully it all works out...
Cadillac is starting it. They are attempting to get younger people to drive Caddy's. The '05 STS will have RWD and a possible manual tranny (maybe not '05, but down the road).
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#152377 - 04/23/04 02:20 PM Re: 5.3 L V8 in '05 GTP???????
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The 05 STS preview I saw said RWD in the V6 and AWD in the V8. It also said that the V8 version will do 0-60 in under 6 seconds. And will start around 47K for the V8.

I GOTTA GET ONE!!!
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#152378 - 04/23/04 02:39 PM Re: 5.3 L V8 in '05 GTP???????
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'05 STS "AWD in the V8"
AWD will be an option.
$47.5K is the base list MSRP for the V8 RWD.
Link to ordering guide:

http://eogld.ecomm.gm.com/NASApp/domesti...&page=4&butID=3

GP content - I would LOVE to see a GP based on the Caddy CTS / STS / Sigma platform.
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#152379 - 04/23/04 04:15 PM Re: 5.3 L V8 in '05 GTP???????
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AWD would be a sweet combo with a Northstar and a 6spd. Although I like the styling on the previous generation better.
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#152380 - 04/23/04 11:33 PM Re: 5.3 L V8 in '05 GTP???????
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Give it time Ray... don't most "options" start with Caddy?
I can list a few, but I would venture I would get flamed like usual. Look at the history...no NOT JUST THE PRODUCTION VEHICLES! See what Caddy brought to GM.
GM is becoming very innovative in thinking lately...a totaly re-sedigned GP.
Chevy has how many new vehicle launches in the past/next few months....To list just a few.. Avalanche, MalibuMaxx, SSR, A NEW MEAN @$$ Vette with 400 ponies standard and better gas milage than the 5.7 Z06.. all unique...
Caddilac with a 6speed 13 second-flat CTS, Totally redesigned STS AWD less than 6second 0-60 luxury sport sedan.
Pontiac with the G6 and the 4 wheel steer Truck (yes out for a bit now but innovative none the less)

HOLY CRAP YOU GUYS CAN BE CYNICAL!!! WE ARE ALL IN THIS FOR THE GP >>> I HAVE NEVER+++ON ANOTHER FORUM SEEN SUCH PESSIMISM!!!!

Flame me as you wish but look at the posts... you all have the glass 1/2 empty.... The 04 COMP G rocks! Tap shift..WITHOUT SHIFTING AUTOMATICALLY AT REDLINE! 3.29 Gears, Better tuned suspension, StabiliTrak Sport, Magnasteer II, lightweight aluminum machine-finished wheels, Red-painted brake calipers (futile but damn cool from a USA factory!) - SHEESH should I join a BMW or Nissan forum... they talk better about GM than some here!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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#152381 - 04/27/04 01:29 AM Re: 5.3 L V8 in '05 GTP???????
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Hey, settle down, we are not cynical, just not all there, and that my friend is why we continue to put the hammer down.
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#152382 - 04/27/04 07:24 AM Re: 5.3 L V8 in '05 GTP???????
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The reason some of us seem to be a little more cynical than other is because we've been promised one thing by GM and then been given something entirely different on more than a couple occassions. I'm speaking from personal experience. But that's another story for a different day.

Besides... I don't care if the glass is half full or half empty. I just want a bigger glass!!! smile

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#152383 - 04/27/04 12:48 PM Re: 5.3 L V8 in '05 GTP???????
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Sensible Marc, as always.
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