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#153618 - 11/14/04 06:33 PM NEW BEST IN THE GOAT!
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I pulled a

13.8 @ 102
2.2 60' (no traction on the stock tires with 30psi)

I had 3/4 tank of gas anf 30 psi in the stock tires. My car is the Auto 4 speed. And it is bone stock.
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#153619 - 11/14/04 08:34 PM Re: NEW BEST IN THE GOAT!
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That's sweet. Is the speed a little low, or is that where it should be?
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#153620 - 11/16/04 07:19 PM Re: NEW BEST IN THE GOAT!
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Jizz is there going to be an 05 Goat ? We test drove a silver shadow today and yes i'm impressed So what's the scoop .Chico.
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#153621 - 11/17/04 09:04 AM Re: NEW BEST IN THE GOAT!
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Meaning for me or in general? For me no. In general YES! All the "official" info will be released on December 1st. Why Dec 1? I have no idea but look for all the news then.

Estimaded data is as such..

0-60 in 4.7 sec
1320ft in 13 flat
400HP
400ftlb
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#153622 - 11/17/04 09:38 AM Re: NEW BEST IN THE GOAT!
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The reason i ask ,I'm interested in a purchase of an 04 for a sort of collector , Do you know if the 05 will still be on the azzie body? Thx Chico.
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#153623 - 11/17/04 12:31 PM Re: NEW BEST IN THE GOAT!
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Hum - that is a tough question to answer... ok

The UAW contract for the GTO was as followed..

3 year with 18,000 max units sold the first year. I think only about 12,000 where actually made.
In 2007 the new body will be release (Zeta) still designed by the aussie but will be brought over to the USA for builds i.e. New Camaro, Chevelle, GTO (USA). So in actuallity the Holden GTO will only be produced 04-05-06 then in 07 there will be a new release of vehicles.
This of course is all pending to change but that is the latest news from GM.

Now the 05 is a LS2 GTO (6.0L) same motor that is in the C6 Vette. The changes to the 05 are as follows
Hood scoops (non functional)
Dual EXIT exhaust w/ 3.5" tips on each side
Upgraded brakes with red painted cal and say GTO
Purple and Barbados blue delete and 2 colors added.
If you want a collector 04 GTO get the Pulse Red, only the last 800 made where availible for order in pulse red. Changes in Pulse Red (option W40)
Silver Guage cluster (instead of red)
Red Embroidered GTO on seat (not silver)
Pulse Red exterior color (Darker than Torrid Red but not metallic)
Only 800 possible made. Of 12000 cars that is about 6%.
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#153624 - 11/17/04 12:33 PM Re: NEW BEST IN THE GOAT!
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Originally posted by BryantGTP:
That's sweet. Is the speed a little low, or is that where it should be?
That is right in line where it should be - at least compaired to the F-Bodys.

My 99 Vette Converty ran a 13.4 @ 105 stock.
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#153625 - 11/17/04 02:35 PM Re: NEW BEST IN THE GOAT!
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Thanks very much for the imfo.will help us a great deal in our decision .THX Chico.
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#153626 - 11/18/04 12:57 PM Re: NEW BEST IN THE GOAT!
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Chico,

if you want an 04 that is collectible, get a barbados blue M6 or Auto or a cosmos purple M6 or Pulse Red M6. those are the rarest colors and Im pretty sure the cosmos/M6 is the rarest color/trans combo. Not sure what tranny is scarce in the Barbados but its prob M6 also since I havent seen many of those in my searches of dealers. Both of those colors are an 04 only RPO color

The PULSE RED that is hitting dealers now is a Holden exclusive color and was limited to the last 800 or so GTOs produced. that is also somewhat rare and IMO looks better than the torrid red. (sorry Jizz). It also has silver gauges and seat stiching instead of red.

Link for pics on that is here
pulse red

You will have an easier time finding the pulse red than cosmos or barbados now that PRs are finally hitting the shores. BUT Id bet dealers will try to play the :special limited color so pay more" card. IF they want to commit suicide anyway.

Barbados blue and cosmos purple are gone for 05 and replaced by cyclone grey and midnight blue. IMO both are GREAT colors.
Pics here cyclone and midnight pics


The GTO will be aussie built for 04/05/06 with an american design coming in 07 suposidly. I would imagine that they all depend on sales.

The great speculation now is WILL the 05 sell like hotcakes or will it tank like the 04 because of dealer tacking on $3,000-5,000 to MSRP like they did the 04. Now that prices with the $3500 rebates are down to $28,000 or so, (and you can get them for a little bit less if you try hard) they are selling rather briskly. Sept/Oct were the best sales months for the GTO so far.

IF there are 05s discounted next fall I will buy one but GM has put out statements that all of 05 production will be done NOW and will end by May of 05 so that ALL GTOs will make it here to be sold in spring-early fall. There wont be any trickling to our shores in late fall like now. That will limit their availability toward the end of 05 (if they sell) and will help dealers sell during the summer months wtih plenty of supply. Unlike the 04s. Only problem is 05 insurance rates for the 400hp motor will prob be higher than the 350hp 04.

Here is the latest info regarding that GM letter.

HOT SHEETS - ALL PONTIAC DEALERS

Subject: PONTIAC HOT SHEET - NOVEMBER 11, 2004

* GTO 2004 lease program is in place through 1/3/05 ... the 2004 GTO lease program when combined with GMAC bonus cash continues to be an effective tool in selling down the remaining 2004 models. Take advantage of this competitive lease program to clear out the remaining 2004 models before the end of the year! The feature payment is $299 for 36 months with $2,124 due. See your regional incentive administration messages for details!

* 2005 GTO has started production ... the most powerful GTO ever built started production on time and will be arriving into the US port in early December with initial shipments to dealers late December or early January. The 2005 GTO has 50 more horsepower, a performance brake package, hood scoops and split dual exhaust. Pricing will be announced in December. Don't get caught with 2004 models in stock after January 1st.

* 2005 GTO Build-Out plan - GTO will build out in May to avoid late year arrivals ... as you plan your consensus requirements please be aware that we have consolidated 8 months of production into the first 5 months of 2005 in order to receive all 2005 GTO's in a time period which better matches up with the selling season for RWD performance vehicles.
Pontiac Hot Sheet is provided to you as a condensed listing of current programs, initiatives and other breaking news.
For complete details, see noted references
Message #: PGH20040070
Date Released: 11/11/2004
Recommended Distribution: General Manager; Sales Manager; Service Manager; Dealer
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#153627 - 11/18/04 03:51 PM Re: NEW BEST IN THE GOAT!
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No offense taken dude, I thougt I would like the Pulse Red better also - Until I parked mine next to a Pulse red...I like the Bright Red way better in person.

As for the Pulse red option..the last 800 may not be made -- it is an option, we will have to wait to see the final numbers.

The only reason I suggested the Pulse Red is because as a collectors item it will be worth more in the future (vs the Purple and Barbados) just because more people like the Red.

I will post the final production numbers by color when I get them.
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#153628 - 11/18/04 03:55 PM Re: NEW BEST IN THE GOAT!
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According to GM's media site, through the end of September 8,308 GTOs were sold.

Based on sales through 10-14-04, The last info the dealer had available when I asked:

Phantom Black 39%
Torrid Red 19%
Quicksilver 15%
Impulse Blue 10%
Yellow Jacket 9%
Barbados Blue 4%
Cosmos Purple 4%
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#153629 - 11/18/04 11:24 PM Re: NEW BEST IN THE GOAT!
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According to GMDealerworld, as of 11/3/04, 9487 units have been sold. No word on production #'s, though
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#153630 - 11/19/04 06:49 AM Re: NEW BEST IN THE GOAT!
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Geat info guys ,we have found a pulse red GTO in Houston just a 2 hr drive we are going on Sat. to see if we can make a deal ,that is if my daughter does'nt go into labour that day I'm going to be a grampa.Chico.
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#153631 - 11/19/04 08:31 AM Re: NEW BEST IN THE GOAT!
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Quote:
Originally posted by Chico:
I'm going to be a grampa.
That's awsome. I have a 5 1/2 yr old daughter, which I adore, and I'm already looking forward 20 yrs when I get to hold and take care of her child.
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#153632 - 11/19/04 10:26 PM Re: NEW BEST IN THE GOAT!
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I think the Rarest is the Purple M6. GM always runs a limited production 'purple' car and I always love them. I would kill for a 98 purple GTP. I think they made them in 98 99 or 97 98. I have only seen one GTP coupe purple and one GT sedan purple. I WOULD KILL FOR ONE!!!! And im not talking the anniversary purple. So likewise I would Kill for a 04 Cosmo purple m6 with purple seats. But I have only found one anywhere its in arizone 24 miles on the ODO. So sad im a broke White boy. BOSS I NEED A RAISE IF YOU ARE READING THIS!!!
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