#161050 - 11/29/08 11:19 PM
Military echelon hierarchy
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Herc, feel free to post up the Navy's particulars as well. If there are any Marines or Airmen out there that wish to share, please do.
The "normal" way the Army breaks down:
Soldier: one person Team: 4-5 Soldiers Squad: 12-25 Soldiers Platoon (PLT): ~60 Soldiers Company (CO): ~120-350 Soldiers, or ~4-7 platoons Battalion (BN): ~2-8 companies Brigade/Regiment (BDE/RGT): ~2-x BNs Division (DIV): 3-5 BDEs, roughly 30,000 Soldiers Corps/Army: 2-5 DIVs Major Command (MACOM): 1-4 Corps or Armies Headquarters, Department of the Army (HQDA): the Total Army, including the Reserves and *rallff!* National Guard
Cavalry: Trooper PLT Troop Squadron BDE/RGT ...
Artillery (ARTY) Soldier PLT Battery (BTY) BN ...
Aviation Soldier/Aviator Flight (FLT)/PLT CO ...
Special Forces Soldier Team PLT CO BN Group ...
Recruiting Recruiter (no squad-level echelon) Station CO ...
Bear in mind that these Soldier counts are not definitive. I have seen companies as small as 30 Soldiers, and as large as 350 Soldiers. My CO at FT Campbell, KY (C CO, 8 BN/101 AVN RGT, 101 ABN DIV (AASLT) was larger than 1.5 Infantry (INF) BNs at the time. (Hey, Redman, the BNs I'm talking about are 1st and 2nd Rakkasans). Also, SF follow their own rules. They are NORMALLY structured into teams of 12, but that can, and will, vary. By mission. Any further info on them, I'm probably gonna get a knock on the door.
We also have the following kinds of Divisions: INF Armor (AR) Cavalry (CAV) Airborne/Air Assault (ABN/AASLT) Mountain Mechanized (MECH)
Just because you're in one kind of Division does not determine what job you're gonna do. I've been AVN all my Army life, and some of my assignments have been to INF DIVs on one kind or another. 101 ABN DIV, 2 INF DIV, 3 INF DIV. It takes all kinds of MOSs (Military Occupational Specialties) to kill the bad guy or to level his neighborhood. The 11 series aint kickin in doors if they dont have bullets or food or water. Those supplies wont get any where if the vehicle dont work. Route security is gained by MPs, EOD, INF... and overwatched by AVN and Armor and INF and...so on and so on...
Any more questions? Hopefully they arent too specific, I'm willing to answer almost anything.
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#161052 - 12/01/08 02:30 AM
Re: Military echelon hierarchy
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I'm curious how education fits into the ranking.
I've always heard that higher level officers have more education. I am assuming that is within their military branch.
If someone enters the military with a college degree or even a masters, are they started out on the bottom run with everyone else?
I'm just wondering if the military education is all that matters, or if a traditional 4 year degree starts you out ahead, or just advances you faster, or does nothing at all.
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#161054 - 12/01/08 09:40 AM
Re: Military echelon hierarchy
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With the Army, you can enlist as E-4 right out the box. Right now, you max out Civ Ed at 100 points, which equates to roughly an Associates. Promotion points are used to place you on the Order of Merit List for E-5 and E-6. It also favors VERY well for E-7 and up.
If you decide to commission you normally enter at O-1, but Medical and Chaplain commission at O-3. You also have the option, if qualified, to go Green To Gold. Green to gold allows you to serve as enlisted first then apply to become an officer. If accepted, you would commission at O-1E through O-3E. Being a Mustang pays very VERY well.
And OER/NCOERs have spots for how many of your Soldiers are taking classes and have degrees, not mention what you're doing for your self. The Army REALLY wants well-educated and smart folks in their ranks.
OER= Officer Evaluation Report NCOER= NonCommissioned Officer Evaluation Report
NCO= Enlisted Soldier wearing E-5 (Sergeant) through E-9 (Sergeant Major/Command Sergeant Major/Sergeant Major of the Army)
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#161055 - 12/01/08 10:52 AM
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Geeze it's alphabet soup with all those rankings. I'm confused again. Hercman, why is there a big difference between E-6 and E-7? What are the difference in titles or duties that make those ranks so different?
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