I remember seeing pics you have made of the vert chops as you call them, i was wondering what software you use for that?, i just got a new computer and now i can actually do things like that, because no software in the world was user friendly with my old operating system, including microsoft HA ha.

Photoshop.

You can.... "find" it on limewire

Actually, I think he uses or used to use Paintshop Pro.

RooK would be on the mark there. I use Jasc PaintShopPro 7...which is actually an old program. There are better programs out there to be had butmy PC box is rather old as well, only sporting an 866Mhz processor. I'm sure at some point in the future I will have to upgrade and learn a whole new set of tools especially since Microsoft has sounded the end of XP support in the near future.
Adobe Photoshop has been the weapon of choice for many and it does have many more color abilities than Paint shop does.

ya i have a macbook pro laptop and have the Adobe CS2 package. Best investment i have ever made besides the GP but ya I wanna upgrade to CS3 sometime soon but just dont have the money

CS3 isn't that great. I've got it, CS and 7. I have yet to find anything since 7 that I could actually use to justify an upgrade. CS3 is actually the first one I purchased, but it was part of Creative Suite, otherwise I could care less about having it.

ya idk...i guess from using it at school i like it alot better than CS2....well not ALOT better but i like it more....

I found some freeware that will work. It's not as powerful as photoshop but for what you pay you can't beat it It's called Paint.net

Cool, ill check intoit, thank you all for your input, its nice to be able to get info like this from people that actually use this stuff, thanks

oh and by the way, my old system was 633mhz with windows ME...lol