And that is why I think you need to do something to prevent the illegals from entering in the first place. Then amnesty and citizenship become non-factors.

You can build physical barriers, you can arrest them and deport them, you can punish the businesses that hire them, or you can just grant them amnesty.

Punishing the businesses that hire illegals would be well and good if it was done, but of course the government doesn't do this. The other options are all poor choices and would have limited success.

So am I, but I always have an opinion here.

Ok, I think that this is ridiculous, anyone who enters this county illegally should be prosecuted. They do not deserve any rights. I really hate how they are marching, and expecting to get rights. If they were to illegally enter any country with a militaristic dictator, they would be shot on scene. But because this is the USA, we do not kill them, but, they should be punished and/or deported. There are legal ways to get into this country, do it. I think that the INS shoud show up at each and every march that these illegals had, and deport them. If they want to come back in, then they can do it the right way.

They need to make it very hard to cross the border... enforce the current laws there, and fix the corruption.

They need to make it MUCH easier for people to come in and work, for a limmited amount of time. There also needs to be restrictions on the type of work, pay, and number of people in the program.

They need to come up with a fair solution for the people already here. I don't think everyone should get to stay, but we can't deport them all. And its impossible to figure out how long they've been here to help decide if they can stay or go.

Well as mexican of course my feelings are involved, but i always try to get a complete view of the problem and all of you have true points, i'm agree that no one can go to your country ilegally and demand rights, nobody should go to your house at night enter your house and use your stuff, eat your food and when you caught him, he will demand rights cause he did the laundry and wash the dishes.

I'll try to be polite ok? i'm not trying to offend anybody.

What i can see is that Mexico and USA have a lot of commerce relationship, and sometimes (a lot of times) the economic power of your country presses too much other governments to get advantage, a not healthy advantage, and press countries to get the worse part of it, and if yo add that every government has its part of corruption, people gets the worse part of the trades.

You culd say that this trades could be rejected if they're not good enough for us, but reality is different, being realistic USA has an external politics where there are no place for human rights, and commerce and richness is the most important thing.

So there are consecuences at the end that you can't see are generated by this need of economic power. I hope i could explain myself.

Hope this movements don't get worse and become some kind of racism issues and keep on the legal area.

Alex,

I'm sorry I don't understand all of your message. Are you basically saying the greed of the US economy is taking advantage of the illegal immigrants?


If so, that is very true and I agree. But it must be better than the countries they are coming from if 11 million entered the US.

Well i'm not saying that, of course for all immigrants is better to go over there instead of being here.

What i'm saying is that the economic external politics of USA, sometimes are abusive, because you have the power and the money.

Going back to the house example.

You live in a town, and you have the money to do business, then you forget about ethics and start doing business pressing too much your neighbors, they accept your conditions, but in the future you are generating economic breaks on the other families living near you, so, they will enter your house to eat your food if they don't have a choice.

So, you don't need walls, or other stuff to avoid this kind of problem, you need more humanistic external politics to get a better world for everybody, and a say YOU cause your country is the center of economics around the world, your kind of economy is the flag for everybody at this moment.

A real life example of this kind of abuse is this:

Companies of transportation here in Mexico can't go into the US territory, they can't pass the border, because our trailers damage your asphalt (I don't know how) trailers are the same you have there, but american companies can get into mexican territory. There are very restictive regulations for trailers, they have to pass to USA in excellent conditions, good wheels, every light must work properly,etc..., but when an american trailer gets into mexico, a lot of times do not met this regulations, then mexican companies have to get new wheels for your trailers and overhaul it cause if they don't you wont allow it back, and believe me, there is no way to reject this practices.

BTW, the pass is just for the container.

And i'm near this procces, but in the whole trading relationship Mexico-USA are a lot of examples like this that finish breaking companies and letting people without a a job.

That is interesting Alex. I did not know that about the trailors.

But I'm not understanding what that has to do with illegal immigration.

Maybe I'm just slow today.

with this i agree 100%

So what you are saying is that the US keeps the Mexicans from openly trading with us? I think. No disrepect, but what does that have to do with illegal immigration? Just wondering...

Thank you. Us "kids" need to stick together

I personally agree. I also agree with a former statement that was made about how immigrants serve a purpose, however, that purpose is ruined when it is done illegally. The thing is that they aren't called illegal immigrants for nothing. If you enter this country illegally it is no better than me breaking into your house illegally. Should I stand up for a right to break into your house? I don't think you would like that and neither would I? So, why do these people think they can come and break into our house and then say they are not felons? It doesn't make any sense to me.

Hi, i was on vacation.

I agree with all your points, after all it is your country.

Some one asked what my points had to do with illegal immigration.

For me is clear, your companies break down in a massive way our companies, our fields, our economy, so, having as neighbor the most powerful country, full of oportunities, will always be an issue for illegal immigration.

I wanted to say thanks for all of you for keeping this post in a respectful level, i was reading other GP forum, and is not like this.

Canada is our neighbor and their economy does pretty well. Canadians also illegally enter our country, but not 10 million at a time.

I'm sure we do take advantage of Mexico's wages, businesses, etc. But at some point I think Mexico needs to take responsibility for itself. You can't blame it all on the US, can you?

I'm glad we can talk about this too Alex. It's good to hear your views since I do not know anyone else who lives in Mexico.

Yes Canada is a neighbor too but economics in Canada can manage better the power of USA.
I totally agree that my country needs to take the responsability of many issues, a lot of this problem is generated for corruption inside my country, in fact that is the point there are no just one responsible for this, is not just illegal immigrants, nor USA gov, or Mexican Gov, that is why this can be treated just by one side.