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#177413 - 08/18/05 07:30 PM gas prices are outrageous!!!!
TrishGTP Offline
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Ok so today I went to fill up...and banghead

How much is everyone else having to pay???
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#177414 - 08/18/05 08:45 PM Re: gas prices are outrageous!!!!
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We were at $2.89 here for regular (87). Back down to $2.66 now.
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#177415 - 08/18/05 09:34 PM Re: gas prices are outrageous!!!!
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We're at $2.75 for 93 octane here in Tennessee, but I can drive 5 miles to Kentucky and it's $2.64 for 93 octane. Guess which location I buy my gas!! devilgrin
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#177416 - 08/18/05 09:36 PM Re: gas prices are outrageous!!!!
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it is $2.51 a gallon for regular here in waco as of yesterday.
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#177417 - 08/18/05 09:52 PM Re: gas prices are outrageous!!!!
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$2.69 for 93
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#177418 - 08/18/05 10:06 PM Re: gas prices are outrageous!!!!
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$2.59 seems to be the norm for 87 in my neck of the woods
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#177419 - 08/18/05 10:57 PM Re: gas prices are outrageous!!!!
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$2.89 for 93, and $2.99 for 94
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#177420 - 08/18/05 11:01 PM Re: gas prices are outrageous!!!!
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2.69 for 87
2.79 for 89
2.89 for 93
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#177421 - 08/18/05 11:22 PM Re: gas prices are outrageous!!!!
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Here it's $2.69 for 91 octane. Spent $20 and barely got 3/4 of of a tank.......
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#177422 - 08/18/05 11:57 PM Re: gas prices are outrageous!!!!
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$2.58 for 87 here. Highest it's ever been around here, people are going CRAZY! Everyone's buying beaterz to get them around now.
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#177423 - 08/18/05 11:59 PM Re: gas prices are outrageous!!!!
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I paid $2.44 for 87 this morning. Took $25 to fill up from 1/4 tank.
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#177424 - 08/19/05 12:06 AM Re: gas prices are outrageous!!!!
Caesar Offline
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Just filled up my wife's minivan. Paid $2.69.9 for regular...cost me over $49.00 to fill the tank (just over 18 gallons)
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#177425 - 08/19/05 12:09 AM Re: gas prices are outrageous!!!!
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Gas in Canada is worse...there are lots of people driving over the border (Windsor tunnel or Ambassador Bridge) to get gas here in Michigan). I don't recall the prices over in Canada though.
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#177426 - 08/19/05 01:40 AM Re: gas prices are outrageous!!!!
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2.69 for reg. 87 here,also

I wish that the govt would let more than 10% ethanol go into the pumps, cause that would make it a lot cheaper, better for the env, and better for our cars. if they would just let 50% ethanol, then maybe we'd have 94 or 95 that is cheaper than 87 around here!!

(hey a guy can dream, right??)
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#177427 - 08/19/05 03:36 AM Re: gas prices are outrageous!!!!
jeremy Offline
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just passed a gas station on my way home and gas has dropped from $2.51 yesterday to $2.45 tonight... no its still way to high.
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#177428 - 08/19/05 08:06 AM Re: gas prices are outrageous!!!!
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Paid 2.69 this morning. $46.00 to fill the truck.


What are you gonna do. Gas demand is up 1.4% in the US. You'll never see gas prices below $2 again.
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#177429 - 08/19/05 08:34 AM Re: gas prices are outrageous!!!!
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87 is 2.51
93 is 2.71

Filled all three vehicles on monday and spent $50 to fill the truck, $35 to fill the car and $8 to fill the bike.

For those of you in temperate climates keep an eye on cycle prices. I bet those'll go up because of there excellent MPG. Plus people will ride more then drive.
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#177430 - 08/19/05 08:38 AM Re: gas prices are outrageous!!!!
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Less than a year ago the main topic was "Gas will hit $2 soon", now we're wondering when we'll see $3, and I'm sure some already are seeing $3.
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#177431 - 08/19/05 09:56 AM Re: gas prices are outrageous!!!!
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$2.68 for 93 octane here...I spent $20 and got only a little over 7 gallons of gas mad
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#177432 - 08/19/05 10:01 AM Re: gas prices are outrageous!!!!
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I'm seriously starting to think about selling the fiancee's SUV for a hybrid of some sorts.

It's not the gas prices that are hurting us (yet). It's the fear that increased demand for hybrids will lessen demand for old, used SUVs. I'm affraid in a few years I won't get jack when I try to sell it.
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#177433 - 08/19/05 10:04 AM Re: gas prices are outrageous!!!!
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I'm really glad my wife got rid of her truck last month. She went from 13/18 to 19/30+.
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#177434 - 08/19/05 10:21 AM Re: gas prices are outrageous!!!!
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$3 has been hit in some areas. Though only for high octane.
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#177435 - 08/19/05 10:30 AM Re: gas prices are outrageous!!!!
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Originally posted by BryantGTP:
$3 has been hit in some areas. Though only for high octane.
Nope! You're wrong.

Northside of Chicago, you're looking at 3.09 easy if not more for just regular 87. 3.29 for 92.

Way southside of the city, 2.79 for regular 87 and 2.99 for Premium.

Seriously thinking about taking the bus to work.
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#177436 - 08/19/05 11:35 AM Re: gas prices are outrageous!!!!
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Careful on which hybrid your looking at. Motor Trend did a long term test on the GM full size Hybrid and real world conditions the MPG were not near what GM claims. Iirc the real world results were only like 2-3 mpg better then the comparable sized engine in regular form. So you have to weigh the cost of the over priced hybrids to how much cash your putting into fuel. Every one should just ride bikes smile
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#177437 - 08/19/05 11:56 AM Re: gas prices are outrageous!!!!
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$2.95 for 93 (super) in Kensington / Silver Spring, Maryland

Over $3.00 in DC - so I don't fill up there wink
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#177438 - 08/19/05 12:01 PM Re: gas prices are outrageous!!!!
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Originally posted by HercMan:
Careful on which hybrid your looking at. Motor Trend did a long term test on the GM full size Hybrid and real world conditions the MPG were not near what GM claims. Iirc the real world results were only like 2-3 mpg better then the comparable sized engine in regular form. So you have to weigh the cost of the over priced hybrids to how much cash your putting into fuel. Every one should just ride bikes smile
GM truck hybrids are a complete joke. They only get 1-2 MPG more.

I knew price increases were comming sooner or later. 93 is around the same price as everyone's too.

Sells for large SUVs have still have not dropped dramatically. Guess it isn't hitting folks that hard. I mean paying $2.70 for a 23 gallon tank w/ 15 MPG city? That could be up to $50 a week.

Hybrid demand is still extremely high and are rushing to fulfill the demand.

Buses aren't that bad. Some 4 bangers are starting to look pretty good.
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#177439 - 08/19/05 04:12 PM Re: gas prices are outrageous!!!!
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Originally posted by UMfan:
I'm seriously starting to think about selling the fiancee's SUV for a hybrid of some sorts.

It's not the gas prices that are hurting us (yet). It's the fear that increased demand for hybrids will lessen demand for old, used SUVs. I'm affraid in a few years I won't get jack when I try to sell it.
My uncle already sold his V8 Tahoe for a V6 Tacoma.

Whatever you do, don't get a hybrid. Nice in theory, terrible in practice. The batteries in them need replacing every 50k~ miles, a problem Honda has resorted to fixing by offering the first replacement free of charge. The batteries for them are above $1k. People have also shown that even the insight gets crappy milage most of the time. You're better off getting a nice, efficent gas-engined car instead of a hybrid. Especially if you plan to keep it a long time. Your wallet will thank you.
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#177440 - 08/19/05 04:45 PM Re: gas prices are outrageous!!!!
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I've heard stories about insights getting bad mileage and theories that batteries will need replacing every ~100k (never heard of ~50k). The "free of charge" is just their basic warranty for defective ones.

I went to a less biased insight forum called insightcentral.net and they don't mention much about bad mileage. They do mention a bunch of other mechanical issues though.

Personally, I am waiting until I hear what happens to these cars when they get old. Should be the near future since they been out for a while.

Edit: Gramar in first sentence.
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#177441 - 08/19/05 05:18 PM Re: gas prices are outrageous!!!!
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Quote:
Originally posted by RooK:
Quote:
Originally posted by UMfan:
[b] I'm seriously starting to think about selling the fiancee's SUV for a hybrid of some sorts.

It's not the gas prices that are hurting us (yet). It's the fear that increased demand for hybrids will lessen demand for old, used SUVs. I'm affraid in a few years I won't get jack when I try to sell it.
My uncle already sold his V8 Tahoe for a V6 Tacoma.

Whatever you do, don't get a hybrid. Nice in theory, terrible in practice. The batteries in them need replacing every 50k~ miles, a problem Honda has resorted to fixing by offering the first replacement free of charge. The batteries for them are above $1k. People have also shown that even the insight gets crappy milage most of the time. You're better off getting a nice, efficent gas-engined car instead of a hybrid. Especially if you plan to keep it a long time. Your wallet will thank you. [/b]
I don't know...my buddy has a hybrid civic and it's nice. Even if you have to replace the battery after 50k miles... that is about 4 or 5 years of driving. If you used to fill up once a week, the hybrid lets you go twice a week. That means you saved $40 per fill up x 26 fill ups per year x 5 years = $5,200.

You still come out on top.
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#177442 - 08/19/05 06:28 PM Re: gas prices are outrageous!!!!
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I'm very happy with the kind of mileage both my GP and my wifes Montana have been getting...I find it kind of funny how some people will drive to another county to save a few pennies on gas and then go to Starbucks and shell out $5 for a coffee!...gas prices around here are hovering just south of $2.90 for 93octane. With the way things are going I seriously dont think we'll ever see the price much below $2.50 in the future, so I still believe the full sized SUV is headed for the same fate as the old full sized luxo barge. The used car lots around here are already starting to overflow with them. I'm still having a few reservations about buying a V8 powered playtoy, but many of them get almost as good mpg as the T-Bat...and since I wont be driving it everyday, I think I might be able to live with that.I guess if my Dad were still around he would have heart failure over gas prices. I can remember when he used to fill up the family sedan at 29 cents a gallon.
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#177443 - 08/19/05 06:49 PM Re: gas prices are outrageous!!!!
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I'm glad I got a GT instead of a GTP now... only need regular instead of premium
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#177444 - 08/19/05 06:53 PM Re: gas prices are outrageous!!!!
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Originally posted by ThunderBat:
I guess if my Dad were still around he would have heart failure over gas prices. I can remember when he used to fill up the family sedan at 29 cents a gallon.
Ok but look at it this way. Back then gas might have been .29 a gallon but the average hourly wage was no where near what it is now. When you look at the ratio of price of gas per gallon/average hourly wage fuel is still way cheaper then it was back then. Gas prices just haven't increased at the same rate as average earnings have.
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#177445 - 08/19/05 10:56 PM Re: gas prices are outrageous!!!!
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I know what you mean Tbat, but gas prices are so key to the economy, I think that's why it gets talked about.

Every single product you buy used gas to make or distribute it. A few pennies at each step adds up, and before you know it EVERYTHING costs more. Including your $5 cup of coffee. wink

Now, if you go to Starbucks and shell out the dough, it just affects your wallet once.
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#177446 - 08/19/05 11:40 PM Re: gas prices are outrageous!!!!
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Originally posted by UMfan: Even if you have to replace the battery after 50k miles... that is about 4 or 5 years of driving. If you used to fill up once a week, the hybrid lets you go twice a week. That means you saved $40 per fill up x 26 fill ups per year x 5 years = $5,200.

You still come out on top. [/QB]
Actually, 50k would only last me 2-3 years here. You have to drive to get to everything. I drive 30 miles round trip just to get to work, hate to think how many to get to college.
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#177447 - 08/20/05 01:30 AM Re: gas prices are outrageous!!!!
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Originally posted by RooK:
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Originally posted by UMfan: Even if you have to replace the battery after 50k miles... that is about 4 or 5 years of driving. If you used to fill up once a week, the hybrid lets you go twice a week. That means you saved $40 per fill up x 26 fill ups per year x 5 years = $5,200.

You still come out on top.
Actually, 50k would only last me 2-3 years here. You have to drive to get to everything. I drive 30 miles round trip just to get to work, hate to think how many to get to college. [/QB]
That sucks. I put less than 10k on per year.
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#177448 - 08/20/05 07:40 AM Re: gas prices are outrageous!!!!
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the above posts about mileage got me wondering, so I checked... I've put 43k miles on my GP in 26 months. hammer hammer
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#177449 - 08/20/05 10:39 AM Re: gas prices are outrageous!!!!
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When you look at the ratio of price of gas per gallon/average hourly wage fuel is still way cheaper then it was back then. Gas prices just haven't increased at the same rate as average earnings have. [/QB]
That would have to be the only thing that hasnt skyrocketed past wages! lol the cost of housing and the purchase price of autos has gone off the chart...back in 1967, my Dad bought a brand new Dodge Polara sedan for $3200. That same year he made $15k (and worked plenty of overtime to get that)...last year I made about 4 times that much(and worked plenty of overtime as well) but the average cost of a new car is way more that four times what he paid. I dont really even consider buying brand new cars anymore for that very reason. I know guys at work who have payments on new trucks that are almost as high as my house payment...and thats just plain crazy.
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#177450 - 08/20/05 12:47 PM Re: gas prices are outrageous!!!!
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I'm glad I got a GT instead of a GTP now... only need regular instead of premium
I'm with you on that.
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#177451 - 08/20/05 12:53 PM Re: gas prices are outrageous!!!!
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I'm glad I got a GT instead of a GTP now... only need regular instead of premium
I'm with you on that.
Same here.

I'm fortunate that the gas station I always go to is still only 2.43. We'll see how long that lasts.
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#177452 - 08/20/05 02:56 PM Re: gas prices are outrageous!!!!
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Keep in mind, there's only about a $2.60 difference per tank between regular and premium.

I don't mind paying the extra ~$2.60 or so per tank to have a GTP.
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#177453 - 08/20/05 03:10 PM Re: gas prices are outrageous!!!!
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here here Bobby smile
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#177454 - 08/20/05 03:43 PM Re: gas prices are outrageous!!!!
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heard on the radio a few days ago, that gas prices in other countries were really high, and in some countries, really low, where cars are at a minimum...think a few places were less than $1.00 and even a few less than .25 cents.

Heck...it takes close to $60 bucks to fill up my truck..... give or take a few bucks. Been driving the grand am around town. may have to trade the truck back in and get matching mopeds with side cars!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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#177455 - 08/21/05 07:02 AM Re: gas prices are outrageous!!!!
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Think of the fact that right now it costs an extra couple of dollars every time you fill up. Gas prices will go down a little and steady off at some point. Now, if you were to sell your car for another car, how much would you be paying in sales tax?

The guy who sold his V8 Tahoe for a V6 Tacoma got screwed. He probably paid a couple hundred dollars in sales tax to only get 4-6 MPG. He could have done a full tune up to the Tahoe, gotten a 3 mpg increase, and ridden out the bad prices.
My Dakota gets 19 on the highway (3.9, V6, 5spd), my father's Tahoe gets 15 (with 130k miles and NO tuneup).
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#177456 - 08/21/05 09:15 AM Re: gas prices are outrageous!!!!
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Yep but we just have to get use to the fact that we'll never see $2 a gallon again. Ever notice how fast the prices tend to rise when price/barrel goes up but how slow the prices drop if they even do when the price/barrel does?

I have once seen a gas station in the morning the price was 1.56 at noon the price was 1.66 and when I went home that afternoon the same gas station had since raised it a third time to 1.86. Needless to say I quit going to that station.
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#177457 - 08/21/05 10:04 AM Re: gas prices are outrageous!!!!
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If gas prices are above $2.60 and demand is up, why would gas prices ever fall? They won't. If the national average goes to above $3, there's a slim chance that we'll ever get below $2.50.

Gas prices are a problem that we have dug ourselves into as a nation. We're just behind on technology and don't have a way out yet.

One of the greatest liberal complaints is that Bush isn't doing anything to reduce our dependence on foreign oil. Unfortunately, that's not his job. The government's job is to supply us with what we need. Etienne Lenoir didn't get any gov't funding to invent the internal combustion engine. He used his own funds. Maybe George Soros should invest millions in fuel alternatives instead of giving it to hate groups. Or Hollywood should gather $15 million to put towards fuel alternatives instead of offering it to Ralph Nader on the agreement that he won't run for President.
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#177458 - 08/21/05 10:28 AM Re: gas prices are outrageous!!!!
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Registered: 05/23/03
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Loc: Austin, TX
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Originally posted by TexasGP:
heard on the radio a few days ago, that gas prices in other countries were really high, and in some countries, really low, where cars are at a minimum...think a few places were less than $1.00 and even a few less than .25 cents.
Yep, KVET. Heard it too.
One reason gas is so high in the US is because almost half of what we pay is tax. If we didn't pay any tax on our gas, prices would just about be cut in half.
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#177459 - 08/21/05 10:40 AM Re: gas prices are outrageous!!!!
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cheapest place that i saw friday was about 5 minutes from the house and it was:

2.49 / 87
2.57 / 91
2.65-67 / 93 can't remember which one it was

hell, think it's bad filling a gp up, try filling a up diesel truck that holds 38 gallons.
at 2.50 or more a gallon, it usually near $100 to feel up, and it don't get the mileage that the gp gets either!
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#177460 - 08/21/05 11:30 AM Re: gas prices are outrageous!!!!
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Yep. My GTP might have to run premium but I use a heck of alot less of that stuff then I do using 87 in my Silverado.
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#177461 - 08/21/05 05:02 PM Re: gas prices are outrageous!!!!
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Loc: Southern KY
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Originally posted by BryantGTP:
The guy who sold his V8 Tahoe for a V6 Tacoma got screwed. He probably paid a couple hundred dollars in sales tax to only get 4-6 MPG. He could have done a full tune up to the Tahoe, gotten a 3 mpg increase, and ridden out the bad prices.
My Dakota gets 19 on the highway (3.9, V6, 5spd), my father's Tahoe gets 15 (with 130k miles and NO tuneup).
Actually, the Tacoma was used as well, so the tax was included in the trade (pretty even). He says he gets close to 30mpg with it and is saving a ton. I'll have to take his word for it though since I don't drive it. He's happy, that's what matters.
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#177462 - 08/21/05 07:50 PM Re: gas prices are outrageous!!!!
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I was driving around Rockville ,Md with my Pops today and I saw $3.09 the 93 Octane. That's gonna kill me on my trip home tonight.
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#177463 - 08/22/05 11:37 AM Re: gas prices are outrageous!!!!
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I saw this on AOL this morning...interesting. At least there are people out there working on alternative fuels.

http://us.video.aol.com/video.index.adp?mode=1&pmmsid=1372906&referer=http%3A//aolsvc.news.aol.com/news/article.adp
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#177464 - 08/22/05 12:37 PM Re: gas prices are outrageous!!!!
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There is some interesting reading to be had in the most recent National Geographic, entitled "Life after oil" or something similar. What we have to realize is that the inflating cost of gas is just a visible side-effect of the overall worldwide energy crisis. It isn't going to get any better guys, don't expect prices to drop, or even stabilize, anytime soon.
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#177465 - 08/22/05 12:58 PM Re: gas prices are outrageous!!!!
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One thing people don't realize is the effect that the chinease market is playing on the cost of oil as well. China is the fastest growing auto market and it doesn't look like it's gonna slow down anytime soon.
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#177466 - 08/22/05 03:03 PM Re: gas prices are outrageous!!!!
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Taxes have very little effect on oil prices. Taxes are as much as 33 cent per gallon (New York).
http://www.energy.ca.gov/gasoline/margins/

More than 50% of our oil is imported. Note that Canada and Mexico are our largest sources of imported oil. Scan down to the map on SOURCES OF US OIL IMPORTS. Mexico was 13% and Saudi Arabia was 14% but the percentage has changed as the gulf of Mexico is becoming a hot spot.
http://www.gravmag.com/oil.html
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#177467 - 08/22/05 03:28 PM Re: gas prices are outrageous!!!!
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Originally posted by BryantGTP:
Think of the fact that right now it costs an extra couple of dollars every time you fill up. Gas prices will go down a little and steady off at some point. Now, if you were to sell your car for another car, how much would you be paying in sales tax?

The guy who sold his V8 Tahoe for a V6 Tacoma got screwed. He probably paid a couple hundred dollars in sales tax to only get 4-6 MPG. He could have done a full tune up to the Tahoe, gotten a 3 mpg increase, and ridden out the bad prices.
My Dakota gets 19 on the highway (3.9, V6, 5spd), my father's Tahoe gets 15 (with 130k miles and NO tuneup).
Oregon has no sales tax. I'm safe. wink
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#177468 - 08/22/05 03:31 PM Re: gas prices are outrageous!!!!
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(sorry this one's so long everybody)
yet, the technology is there, and we refuse to use it??

I don't get it. we can produce ethanol, biodiesel, and all sorts of other things that will run it our engines without any modifications, yet our lovely government won't allow proper funding, etc to make it so that we use far less oil. I personally believe that if the oil companies, and everybody else would just get off their lazy butts and utilize the technology that we have (across the whole spectrum in regards to petroleum), then we wouldn't have to import any oil, and we could clean up the environment as well as eliminate our dependence on foreign oil.

ask yourself this question: if the price of 87 was 2.50/gallon, and the pump next to it was ethanol (89, priced at 2.48/gallon and proven to burn a lot cleaner, helping the environment out significantly) which nozzle would you reach for and put into your tank?
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#177469 - 08/22/05 09:21 PM Re: gas prices are outrageous!!!!
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well....I bought me an '88 mazda 323 the other day. 5 speed. I'll just take that to work from now on....LOL.. Paid $200 bucks for it too...LOL
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#177470 - 08/22/05 09:43 PM Re: gas prices are outrageous!!!!
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Originally posted by Dementeddj:

I don't get it. we can produce ethanol, biodiesel, and all sorts of other things that will run it our engines without any modifications, yet our lovely government won't allow proper funding, etc to make it so that we use far less oil.
It's not the govt's job.
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#177471 - 08/23/05 12:16 AM Re: gas prices are outrageous!!!!
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Bryant, you should be a Libertarian, if you aren't already. smile
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#177472 - 08/23/05 07:27 PM Re: gas prices are outrageous!!!!
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I'm a limited libertarian/conservative. devilgrin

In other words, I'm not committing to nothing.
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