well i debadged my car today. i took the ones on the doors fenders and trunk lid, when i got to my front bumper it pulled off a huge chunk of paint when i was useing a rubber wheel, im so mad about this, now i HAVE to paint my bumper i was hopen to put it off as long as possible. this was very frustrating to me so i just had to share.

lol I feel for you man, tryin to save money and all. Atleast you only have to pay for the paint and not the labour.

What badge is on the front bumper?

3800V6 on GT models.

yep ... im so mad time to throw on my extra bumper and fix this one

the 3800 badge was on the bumpers for the 97-2000 SE's also and the GT's only carried em until 99 i believe...because i dont have one on mine and I have a 2001

SE's NEVER had the three-eight....only 3.1.

acually the 3800 was an option you could have on the SE so yes some SE's did have the 3800.

ooo yes they did....lol http://www.autobuyguide.com/1997/12-aut/pontiac/grand-prix/reviews/index.html
if you scroll down to the second paragraph under the red GP you will see that it says--> "There are three engines. Standard with the SE is a 3.1-liter V6. It's a durable performer, but with 160 horsepower hitched to some 3400 pounds of car, it's no thrill ride. Standard on GT, and optional on SE, is GM's 3.8-liter 3800 Series II V6. A good all-around performer, it delivers 195 hp, 220 pound-feet of torque, commendable smoothness and crisp throttle response."

well then its not really an SE. its a GT without rocker panels... thats like if they offered a supercharged version of a GT...

lol its an SE.... idk how it isnt...

okay, so if the GT came optional with the supercharger, what is different between the two?(GT and GTP)

lol ok....but it still has the body of an SE so therefore its an SE....

well thats what i said lol

SE had single exhaust, GT had dual. problem and argument solved

ehhh....

well i still call it 3.1 SE, 3.8 NA GT and 3.8 S/C GTP lol.

haha ok u do that...lol

In '97, GTP was an 'addon' package to the GT. After that, the GTP became its own model. The SEs w/ 3800 is still an SE. It didn't have some of the options available to the GT trim.

lol I KNEW IT....lol

HUGE thread jackers!

Well now Andrew you can advertise bumper painting and fixing!

man stop ur jabbeing! lol

hey well he was right huge thread jack lol yeah i know, i might be going back up to the mall of america this weekend with my family, and since i dont have a real place to work yet on huge stuff i am throwing my other bumper on and im fixing this one, the nic and all the chips and such i wish i had another hood so i can do my custom toutch on that as well

I need my hood and bumber done! It had road rash from vertical reflectors on a high in Orlando!

sorry man i just had to prove a point...lol my bad....

lol i want to get another hood and mold some custom scoop into it and run it to an airbox

sweet....hope it turns out pretty good for u andrew

i will have to wait with a hood, i will get lots of pictures of the bumper while im working on it!!

i will have to wait with a hood, i will get lots of pictures of the bumper while im working on it!!

yeah we alwyas have to prove points you know that andrew, but good luck with the painting process and everything, and i cant wait to see a custom hood on that gt

i have to get another hood first or i will have to get another car to drive as my DD once i have that i am going to be doing a custom hood, and maybe a comp repaint of my car, a dark orange