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#18483 - 02/03/04 12:48 AM Takes 2 tries to start occasionally
daverobs11 Offline
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2001 GP SE 3.1 litre engine. not always, but at times, when I go to start it, it'll crank for 2-3 seconds and not "catch" I have to re-crank and then starts. Am I not keeping the starter engaged long enough? after start up on second crank, engine runs fine and no problems at all..no SES light on....no codes set. I run 87 octane gas.......should I bump up to 93? I know this may sound petty....I just wonder why I should have to crank the engine twice (sometimes) to have it start. Thanks.

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#18484 - 02/03/04 08:14 AM Re: Takes 2 tries to start occasionally
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Get a new battery
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#18485 - 02/03/04 12:38 PM Re: Takes 2 tries to start occasionally
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Put two bottles of dry gas in your tank on the next fill up and one bottle on each fill up after that. Your car will start right up on the first time. Should cost no more than $1.50 per bottle. You'll be glad you did. Let us know what happens.
Jack
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2004 GTP CompG. WS6, 3.29 axle, HUD, tapshift, Premium sound, XM radio, leather, sunroof, 17inch 5 star chromies, BFG Comp T/A. Wizaired CAI.

Traded in. 2003 GTP. Every option but HUD. New Mods: Wizaired CAI, SLP Headers, Cat, U-bend and Downpipe, 3.2 Modular Pulley, Phase 3 rollers w/OR Pushrods, Larger Belt Tensioner Pulley, Gatorback, AL103's, 180 Degree Stat, DHP
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#18486 - 02/04/04 01:09 AM Re: Takes 2 tries to start occasionally
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Herc....my battery turns it over with no problem...strong. Just periodically, it won't start up on the first crank..like it gets too much fuel and stumbles....It takes a second crank to fire up. After start up, runs fine with no probs. Like I said, no ses light or any codes set. I just wondering why I have to crank twice to start. again it only happens occasionally. 38,000 miles 3.1 litre engine 2001 GP SE.
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#18487 - 02/04/04 08:14 AM Re: Takes 2 tries to start occasionally
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Why don't people just believe me? Dry gas, Dry gas, Dry gas, Dry gas, Dry gas, Dry gas, Dry gas. You live way up north, right?
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2004 GTP CompG. WS6, 3.29 axle, HUD, tapshift, Premium sound, XM radio, leather, sunroof, 17inch 5 star chromies, BFG Comp T/A. Wizaired CAI.

Traded in. 2003 GTP. Every option but HUD. New Mods: Wizaired CAI, SLP Headers, Cat, U-bend and Downpipe, 3.2 Modular Pulley, Phase 3 rollers w/OR Pushrods, Larger Belt Tensioner Pulley, Gatorback, AL103's, 180 Degree Stat, DHP
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#18488 - 02/04/04 12:44 PM Re: Takes 2 tries to start occasionally
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of course you could try a bottle or two of "Dry Gas" smile
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#18489 - 02/04/04 04:04 PM Re: Takes 2 tries to start occasionally
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I get carried away sometimes.
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2004 GTP CompG. WS6, 3.29 axle, HUD, tapshift, Premium sound, XM radio, leather, sunroof, 17inch 5 star chromies, BFG Comp T/A. Wizaired CAI.

Traded in. 2003 GTP. Every option but HUD. New Mods: Wizaired CAI, SLP Headers, Cat, U-bend and Downpipe, 3.2 Modular Pulley, Phase 3 rollers w/OR Pushrods, Larger Belt Tensioner Pulley, Gatorback, AL103's, 180 Degree Stat, DHP
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#18490 - 02/04/04 05:39 PM Re: Takes 2 tries to start occasionally
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What does dry gas do?
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#18491 - 02/04/04 08:43 PM Re: Takes 2 tries to start occasionally
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It removes any water that might be in your fuel system and helps to prevent fuel line freezing.
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#18492 - 02/05/04 01:18 AM Re: Takes 2 tries to start occasionally
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OK Guys..added a bottle of "heet" "dry gas" to my tank tonight. Why am I paying $1.60/gallon at the pump for "wet" gas? If I had any "bad" gas, the engine performance would be bad at running mode..I.E. hesitation, stalling, which I don't have. I'll keep you updated!. Thanks
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#18493 - 02/05/04 07:43 AM Re: Takes 2 tries to start occasionally
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$1.60/gallon???? I'm jealous. I pay $2.00. I swear I am moving out of this rip-off state they call New York. I read a bill from the NY dept of transportation proposing a 22 cent per gallon tax increase and an increase in all tolls. Gotta get the F outa here.
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2004 GTP CompG. WS6, 3.29 axle, HUD, tapshift, Premium sound, XM radio, leather, sunroof, 17inch 5 star chromies, BFG Comp T/A. Wizaired CAI.

Traded in. 2003 GTP. Every option but HUD. New Mods: Wizaired CAI, SLP Headers, Cat, U-bend and Downpipe, 3.2 Modular Pulley, Phase 3 rollers w/OR Pushrods, Larger Belt Tensioner Pulley, Gatorback, AL103's, 180 Degree Stat, DHP
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#18494 - 02/05/04 11:35 AM Re: Takes 2 tries to start occasionally
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come to MA!!

You can pay $1.90!!

It helps a little...
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#18495 - 02/05/04 03:46 PM Re: Takes 2 tries to start occasionally
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Here in maine its $1.81 a gallon
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#18496 - 02/05/04 07:21 PM Re: Takes 2 tries to start occasionally
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I paid $1.80 for the good stuff last weekend here in TX.
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#18497 - 02/06/04 10:41 AM Re: Takes 2 tries to start occasionally
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I was in New Hampshire in November. The gas was in the $1.60 range for premium but it had a funny smell to it. Whatcha puttin in that New England gas?
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2004 GTP CompG. WS6, 3.29 axle, HUD, tapshift, Premium sound, XM radio, leather, sunroof, 17inch 5 star chromies, BFG Comp T/A. Wizaired CAI.

Traded in. 2003 GTP. Every option but HUD. New Mods: Wizaired CAI, SLP Headers, Cat, U-bend and Downpipe, 3.2 Modular Pulley, Phase 3 rollers w/OR Pushrods, Larger Belt Tensioner Pulley, Gatorback, AL103's, 180 Degree Stat, DHP
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